BarbaraVilliers: yes ditto
BarbaraVilliers: can we do amster as a bonus
alrightnow(*): sure
BarbaraVilliers: please
BarbaraVilliers: why don't you demote him
BarbaraVilliers: he never shuts up
alrightnow(*): I am working on it
BarbaraVilliers: attacking new admins and you and djud
alrightnow(*): it is not that simple
BarbaraVilliers: please
BarbaraVilliers: whats up
alrightnow(*): icm has joel's protection
BarbaraVilliers: he is disgusting
BarbaraVilliers: yes I know
BarbaraVilliers: what about amster
alrightnow(*): he attacks me ? really? I thought he just hated djud
BarbaraVilliers: he is always doing the same thing
alrightnow(*): hummmm
BarbaraVilliers: yes he said you were sick in the head
BarbaraVilliers: I have the log if you need it
alrightnow(*): It must be that told him to mind his own business
alrightnow(*): no I believe you
BarbaraVilliers: he is awful
BarbaraVilliers: calling gftd a comp cheat
alrightnow(*): well he does do good work with the computerabuse team
BarbaraVilliers: behind his back ofcourse
BarbaraVilliers: he bans half the members
alrightnow(*): his personal skills are not the best but
BarbaraVilliers: we get them in support
alrightnow(*): he is banning people?
BarbaraVilliers: and sometimes Joel has to reverese decisions
BarbaraVilliers: all of the time
BarbaraVilliers: he never stops
alrightnow(*): can you show me an example?
BarbaraVilliers: I have them in support
BarbaraVilliers: from about a month ago I can
alrightnow(*): well get me some handle names I would like to see
this with my own eyes
BarbaraVilliers: dig it out
BarbaraVilliers: ok
BarbaraVilliers: will find them
BarbaraVilliers: a whole family got banned
alrightnow(*): you have to understand onething
BarbaraVilliers: ok
alrightnow(*): everyone has some plus and minuses
BarbaraVilliers: I know
BarbaraVilliers: but we need unbanned players
alrightnow(*): so I try to get people into spots they do well
BarbaraVilliers: ofcourse
BarbaraVilliers: but the power went to his head
alrightnow(*): mrstillwater would not be suited for support
BarbaraVilliers: no lol
alrightnow(*): as an exmaple
BarbaraVilliers: but MrStillwater not banning everyone
alrightnow(*): but he does a wonderful job with computrabuse
BarbaraVilliers: he hasn't been bad lately
BarbaraVilliers: its amster doing it
alrightnow(*): then I need to talk with him that is why I want the
example :d
alrightnow(*): so I can ask him why
BarbaraVilliers: I will find them for you
alrightnow(*): overall amster is not that bad
BarbaraVilliers: Aurora files them
BarbaraVilliers: he is heavily influenced by ICMM
BarbaraVilliers: be careful
alrightnow(*): I know he does not like some of my appointments
alrightnow(*): yes i realize that
BarbaraVilliers: no he never stops going on about them
alrightnow(*): well I am not here to make everyone happy
BarbaraVilliers: ICM and Chesstactics with Amster and Garp out to
destroy you
alrightnow(*): trust me I disagreed with several of the past HA's admin
appointments
BarbaraVilliers: but there are others that do not feel that way
alrightnow(*): me or djud?
BarbaraVilliers: both of you
alrightnow(*): really thats interesting
BarbaraVilliers: yes
alrightnow(*): I assumed they disliked djud
BarbaraVilliers: djud and you under attack
BarbaraVilliers: amsrter leading it with ICM
BarbaraVilliers: ICM gets him to say things
alrightnow(*): what can they really do
BarbaraVilliers: garp has also started
alrightnow(*): ICM will not be here much longer
alrightnow(*): really hummmm
BarbaraVilliers: they are determined to get rid of gftd and CK
BarbaraVilliers: please
BarbaraVilliers: -)
alrightnow(*): I never thought garp hated me
BarbaraVilliers: whats with ICM
BarbaraVilliers: I don't know that he hates you
BarbaraVilliers: but he likes to play winning side
BarbaraVilliers: he refused to give Aurora SR book
alrightnow(*): people always whine
BarbaraVilliers: yes for sure lol
alrightnow(*): oh lol
alrightnow(*): that is stupid
BarbaraVilliers: yes exactly
alrightnow(*): i will fix that
BarbaraVilliers: Aurora needs the book
BarbaraVilliers: but its you he is defying
alrightnow(*): I want Auroa to write those manuals.
BarbaraVilliers: great
BarbaraVilliers: how is ICM going
BarbaraVilliers: I hate that guy
alrightnow(*): I do not like alot of people but the that is not what
bothers me. His actions do
BarbaraVilliers: exactly
BarbaraVilliers: he is a divisive blackmailing liar
alrightnow(*): I am not sure about that but he has issues with the
facts
BarbaraVilliers: he is, trust me
BarbaraVilliers: he has a bad reputation in UK
alrightnow(*): hummm that is interesting
BarbaraVilliers: nobody here can stand him
BarbaraVilliers: we distrust him
alrightnow(*): hummm well I never really trusted him that much
alrightnow(*): I was just trying to work with him
BarbaraVilliers: I have never trusted him
BarbaraVilliers: I kept away from him
BarbaraVilliers: but he openly attacks me
BarbaraVilliers: as he knows he doesn't frighten me
alrightnow(*): well life has taught me you need to work with people you
dislike and do not trust.
BarbaraVilliers: yes
alrightnow(*): my job is a good example of that
BarbaraVilliers: I would not argue with that
BarbaraVilliers: but this is bad for the server
alrightnow(*): I would like to believe everyone until they prove
otherwise
BarbaraVilliers: yes maybe but you need to be careful
BarbaraVilliers: :-D
BarbaraVilliers: they aren't just after djud
alrightnow(*): I know that
alrightnow(*): you have to understand onething
BarbaraVilliers: Paul wants to be serverdir
alrightnow(*): what can they really take from me?
BarbaraVilliers: nothing
BarbaraVilliers: but the HA
alrightnow(*): what does that really mean?
BarbaraVilliers: agree
BarbaraVilliers: it depends on how much you care about it
alrightnow(*): I care but it is not like it is my job or something
alrightnow(*): I would live
BarbaraVilliers: ok how much do you want to retain it
BarbaraVilliers: You have a few of us behind you and djud
alrightnow(*): well I enjoy trying to help the server but i do not have
to be HA to do that. Frankly, I enjoyed being head TM a great deal more
BarbaraVilliers: yes with power comes responsability
alrightnow(*): what power?
BarbaraVilliers: which most of them don't realise
BarbaraVilliers: the power of being HA
alrightnow(*): I have no power really
BarbaraVilliers: well you certainly have some
BarbaraVilliers: get using it
alrightnow(*): you guys have all the power. I just try to get you to do
good with it
BarbaraVilliers: sp will help
BarbaraVilliers: I will help
BarbaraVilliers: you can count on Aurora
BarbaraVilliers: Mubishop
BarbaraVilliers: Kratz
BarbaraVilliers: Arclight
BarbaraVilliers: pwc
BarbaraVilliers: and others
BarbaraVilliers: we don't want this horrible stuff
alrightnow(*): well thank you for the support
BarbaraVilliers: you have it
BarbaraVilliers: you need help
BarbaraVilliers: you ask
BarbaraVilliers: we are the support team
BarbaraVilliers: we help the server
BarbaraVilliers: and that includes the HAS
alrightnow(*): you already do enough work
BarbaraVilliers: np
BarbaraVilliers: we will help you if you need anything
BarbaraVilliers: I have a good team in support
BarbaraVilliers: we do not help stupid admins who keep whining
BarbaraVilliers: I will have Aurora dig out those bans for you
BarbaraVilliers: can you have a discret word with gftd
BarbaraVilliers: a nice guy but a liuttle hewavy on the sanctions
alrightnow(*): ok sure
alrightnow(*): I will talk to him
BarbaraVilliers: :-)
BarbaraVilliers: just needs some training
BarbaraVilliers: can I suggest something
alrightnow(*): yes of course
alrightnow(*): sure
BarbaraVilliers: a new SA to train the new guys
BarbaraVilliers: an existing SA I should say
BarbaraVilliers: pwc said he would be happy to help
BarbaraVilliers: train them
BarbaraVilliers: there are four so far with no training
alrightnow(*): hummm maybe i need to do that myself
BarbaraVilliers: and I'm sure they would benefit
BarbaraVilliers: yes or if you are busy
BarbaraVilliers: pwc could do it
alrightnow(*): well
BarbaraVilliers: he is popular with staff
BarbaraVilliers: and he knows his stuff
alrightnow(*): his english skills are a little rough
BarbaraVilliers: yes but understandable
alrightnow(*): he is a great guy
alrightnow(*): well
BarbaraVilliers: I like him
alrightnow(*): I do as well
BarbaraVilliers: he does well in suppport
alrightnow(*): hummmm ok
BarbaraVilliers: and training Aurora in adjudicate
alrightnow(*): maybe he would be good then
BarbaraVilliers: I think you should tell him
alrightnow(*): I have a hard time understanding him maybe it is just me
BarbaraVilliers: he says he would be happy to do it
BarbaraVilliers: I'm ok with him
BarbaraVilliers: so is Aurora
BarbaraVilliers: we undrstand him
alrightnow(*): it might be just me
alrightnow(*): that is always possible
BarbaraVilliers: his English just gets rough when he is over excited
BarbaraVilliers: :-)
BarbaraVilliers: he would be idea
BarbaraVilliers: ideal
BarbaraVilliers: with his pleasanrt manner
alrightnow(*): hummm let me talk to djud about it
BarbaraVilliers: try him
BarbaraVilliers: you will get a pleasant surprise
alrightnow(*): despite what people think me and djud don't hate each
other
BarbaraVilliers: and then the grumbling idiots will be silenced
BarbaraVilliers: as the new guys will be trained
BarbaraVilliers: :-)
BarbaraVilliers: I had dinner with Joel a fortnight ago
alrightnow(*): people seem to assume djud appoint auroa and I did gftd
to get back at him
BarbaraVilliers: yes
BarbaraVilliers: ;-)
BarbaraVilliers: lunatics
alrightnow(*): well
alrightnow(*): the trurth is
alrightnow(*): I agree to auroa and he agreed to gftd
BarbaraVilliers: Joel likes the idea of an SA doing training
BarbaraVilliers: thats a fair trade lol
alrightnow(*): no trade
alrightnow(*): appointments are made based on merit
BarbaraVilliers: an English expression
BarbaraVilliers: different meaning in USA
BarbaraVilliers: you are surely both going to choose people you want
and trust
BarbaraVilliers: nothing wrong with that
BarbaraVilliers: if you did agree all of the time it would be a miracle
alrightnow(*): well we sometimes have different ideas of who those are
BarbaraVilliers: exactly
BarbaraVilliers: hiuman nature
BarbaraVilliers: now Aurora was hardly here
BarbaraVilliers: I wouldn't blame either of you for worrying about him
as admin
BarbaraVilliers: thats because I hogged the computer
alrightnow(*): get a 2nd computer they are cheap
alrightnow(*): at least here they are
BarbaraVilliers: we did
BarbaraVilliers: lol
alrightnow(*): I just build one for $350
BarbaraVilliers: thats how we are now both online regularly
BarbaraVilliers: you do need to get those guys trained though and pwc
would do well
alrightnow(*): I think it is worth trying. I will talk with david about
it tonight
BarbaraVilliers: that would be exellent
BarbaraVilliers: and give the new guys more confidence
BarbaraVilliers: I was left in the lurch when Mark appointed me
BarbaraVilliers: so I think I know how they might feel
BarbaraVilliers: especially with some people determinedly ignoring them
alrightnow(*): gotta run boss is calling me. Thank you for the chat