On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 23:53:34 -0400, "Angelo DePalma"
wrote:

Hey stupid ****ing asshole:

The difference between the so-called "fatwas" on anti-abortion sites and the
gratuitous death sentences passed by third-world towel-headed fascists is
that our "fatwas" do not carry the force of government.

Most of the fatwas coming from the radical Islamists don't have any
official government sanction (Iran being an exception). What you have
are religious figures giving anybody who happens to recognize them as
a holy authority direction or dispensation to kill people, regardless
of the (civil) law.

What I've noticed on many of the anti-abortion websites in the US is
that the leaders are now calling themselves "Pastor". And they are
publishing people's names and addresses and suggesting that it's
morally OK to kill them. I see this as a similar to what's coming out
of the radical Islamic websites. Obviously, it hasn't progressed as
far over here. But it's scary none the less.

My point, which I evidently didn't express very well or you wouldn't
have gone ballistic on me, is that it's the *secularism* of the West
that inhibits this sort of behavior. It wasn't all that long ago, in
historical time, that our ancestors *did* kill people for writng
certain books or expressing their opinions or belonging to heretical
faiths. The West took religion more seriously in those days.

If you take religion really seriously, and believe you have a pipeline
to the will of God, why would you let mere civil law protect those
who, in your opinion, jeapordize the infinitely precious immortal
souls of your children?

That's why I thought your post about being careful wishing for
democracy in some of these countries was a good one -- they'd have
their one vote, one time, and elect a radical Islamist theocracy.

You obviously don't
understand the idea that people in this country can disagree and it usually
doesn't cost them their lives. Of course there are accidents -- we are human
beings, and there are assholes among us (of which you are a prime example).
But we don't pass death sentences on people for writing books in this
country, or for expressing their opinions.

You're stupider, dumber, and a bigger asshole than I ever imagined.




"Mike Murray" wrote in message
.. .
On 22 Jul 2005 14:42:18 -0700, wrote:

Mike,
Bush and the White Christain Party (Republicans) want the whole world,
too.
Mike

There's a big difference between advocacy of world-wide political
systems (representative democracy, communism), world wide economic
systems (capitalism, socialism) and a world-wide religion, whether
through Christian missionaries or Islamic jihadists. Immortal souls
and the known will of God have value beyond compromise and negotiation
-- give me a little hypocrisy any day.

I agree that the shrub's supporters on the religious right are getting
pretty similar to the jihadists -- read some of the "fatwas" on the
anti-abortion websites, for examples.