Instead of changing the subject can Bill Brock (politikalhack)
explain why the redesign report is classified?


From: - view profile
Date: Thurs, Apr 6 2006 4:09 pm


Both Larry Parr and Phil Innes correctly observe that an accusation of
child molestation should not be made lightly.

In the following two excerpts, Sam Sloan defends Jefferson Poland, with



whom Sloan co-authored the book _Sex Marchers_, against allegations of
molesting a girl. In the first passage excepted below, Sloan accuses
the child's parents of being "obviously complici[t]" in the
molestation. In the contradictory second passage, Sloan accuses the
child's parents of themselves "abusing the child."


Sloan presents no evidence for the parent's complicity in Poland's
molestation or for his claim that the parents themselves abused the
daughter. Poland's curious choice of surname (see below) would tend to


suggest otherwise.


Poland is indeed a registered sex offender in the state of California,
as one may ascertain via http://www.meganslaw.ca.gov/


EXCERPT 1:


The author of the following passage from an earlier version of the
Wikipedia article on Jefferson Poland was
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Sam_Sloan


http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?...and&oldid=4175...



In the early 1980s, Poland was charged with child molestation.
Apparently, a nudist couple, including David Irving and his girlfriend,



had entrusted Poland with the care of their daughter while they were
nude sunbathing on Black's Beach in La Jolla, California near San
Diego. Some time later, the nudist couple accused Poland of having
performed cunnalingus [sic--WHB] on their daughter while they were nude



sunbathing. Poland fled the country rather than face these charges. He
lived for five years as a fugitive in Australia until 1988, when he was



extradited back to America. In view of the passage of time and the
obvious complicity of his accusers, Poland probably could have
successfully fought the charges. However, by that time he had changed
his name legally to "Clitlick" and he preferred to plead guilty to the
cunnalingus [sic--WHB] charge. He served about nine months in San Diego



County Jail. Upon his release, he returned to live in San Francisco. He



turned over his archives to the Bancroft Library of the University of
California at Berkeley, where they are now available for public viewing



by academic researchers. Poland now lives in San Francisco, where he is



monitored as a registered sex offender.


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EXCERPT 2


On the Wikipedia talk page for the article on Jefferson Poland,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Sam_Sloan (Sam Sloan)
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?...n_Poland&oldid...



wrote:


I have not seen or spoken to Jefferson Poland since 1967. However,
based on what I have read, I strongly suspect that he was the victim of



a setup. In the years I knew him, I never saw him express any interest
in children. I never even saw him express much interest in adult woman,



except that he had a girlfriend, Holly Tannen, who followed him around
like a little puppy-dog everywhere he went.


Those were the glory days of sexual freedom. There was always a bevy of



naked hippie chicks laying around with their legs spread open waiting
for some guy to come along. I partook of these opportunities
frequently, but I never saw Jefferson have sex with a woman, although
there were plenty of available women around.


My guess is that the nudist couple were themselves abusing the child.
Then, they left the child briefly in the care of Jefferson, so that
they could come back and accuse him of what they had actually done. If
the San Diego prosecutor really had proof that Jefferson was guilty, he



would not have let him off with only nine months in jail. Sam Sloan
16:38, 31 March 2006 (UTC)


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