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Old April 30th 06, 01:45 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc
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Default What could be fairer than this?


"Chess One" wrote in message
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"Taylor Kingston" wrote in message
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The Historian wrote:
Taylor Kingston wrote:
wrote:

Hang on. What's this? I'm one of the worst offenders against
historical accuracy!
I trust he's going to produce some evidence for this libel. -- GM
Raymond Keene

As far as legally actionable offenses are concerned, I do not recall
granting permission to GM Keene to reproduce my entire copyrighted
review here. Nor do I recall him even asking for such permission.

Technically, it's Larry Parr that violated your copyright, Taylor,
since Mr. Keene didn't reprint the review. In addition to any legal
line Mr. Parr crossed, he seems to have violated the Code of Ethics of
the Chess Journalists of America. Mr. Parr is a CJA member.

9. No article or other proprietary work may be published without the
necessary proprietary consents.

I note Hanon Russel is a member of CJA; he could ask them to take
action of some kind against Parr.


Thank you, Neil -- I will definitely consider it.


FAIR CHALLENGE?

I strongly suggest that Russel should be contacted - in fact if Taylor
Kingston doesn't I will.

What we would like to know about where Kingston wrote his
article -Chesscafe - and about the CJA Code of Ethics, that Kingston cites
as authority, is if Hanon Russel, who controls both, thinks Keene's
copyright was abridged by Kinston's review.

What could be fairer than that? )

[[When Taylor Kingston has replied to this aspect of his own behavior -
let's do the same thing with the other bloke, Winter - let him write
whatever he wants in his own words - by writing to Winter but asking him a
direct question of what he was about when referring to Kasparov and BCO. I
wonder what the CJA would think of that! At least it doesn't abridge
Kasparov's copyright, since he never wrote anything... ]]

If Taylor Kingston decline to follow the first of these, allow me! If he
would kindly let me know in this forum if he intends to contact Hanon Russel
about a CJA ethical infraction, then we might expect an answer in a timely
way, since it is a serious accusation!

Of course, if the result of the CJA findings in this matter are not as
indicated above, and Parr is found not guilty, but other parties are, then I
am sure they will be able to impartially impose penalties upon themselves
and their agents.

If he does not intend to do so - then I am very willing to contact Hanon
Russel.

Phil Innes


I was just about to say what benefit there is in writing here compared to
Nolandland.

HYSTORYLAND

But the hapless Kingston choses to take ethical advice from Brennan! g

I would say that the likely result of accepting that advice would be a
countersuit which would sink both Kingston and the CJA, since Kingston
quoted FAR more in his own review than is permissable under copyright
law - and Ray Keene is now accused of, in effect, quoting himself inhis
reply.

If there is anything else of substance in this post, rahteer than
'abstract criticism' I am sure someone will reply to it.

Phil Innes


In the meantime, I will be happy to respond to Keene's comments about
my review of his book, on one condition -- that he first acknowledge
and explain, in detail and without evasion, his many documented factual
errors that I have here pointed out, errors which he seems to claim
were never made.
I might add that Keene's errors are of much greater magnitude, on
matters far better known, common knowledge even, than anything he's
laid against me. I hardly feel threatened by an accusation of
jaywalking when it comes from a guy who's habitually DUI,
metaphorically speaking.





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