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Old February 7th 06, 10:54 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc,alt.chess
Sam Sloan
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Default Wikipedia Dispute: Sam Sloan vs. Howcheng regarding Tom Dorsch and Bill Brock

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikiped...ing_Tom_Dorsch

=== Case name ===
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Sam_Sloan against
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Howcheng regarding
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom Dorsch
==== Involved parties ====

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Sam_Sloan
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Howcheng

Also
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Billbrock and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Pierremenard are indirectly (not
directly) involved.

All parties are aware of the request

All steps have been tried and all further steps would prove fruitless
because the underlying dispute with Bill Brock has been going on for
seven years and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Howcheng intervened
on the side of Bill Brock on December 29, 2005 and refuses to back
down.

==== Statement by party 1 ====

I am having a dispute with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Howcheng
and I request the Arbitration Committee to resolve it. On December 11,
2005, I posted a biography of Tom Dorsch, who was Treasurer of the
United States Chess Federation and twice President of the California
Chess Association, but was best known for his attacks on the
Administration of the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United States Chess
Federation in which he accused them of financial improprieties and
even outright thievery. His attacks included 2,680 Usenet postings and
made him one of the best known chess personalities in the world, even
though he was voted out of office in 1999.

I was asked by another chess player to write a biography of Dorsch for
Wikipedia, because I have known Dorsch since 1962, and I know him
better than almost anybody. I was also his roommate in college. There
are, however, other chess players who know him even longer and better
than I do.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Billbrock whose real name is, oddly
enough, Bill Brock, is known for his more than 500 personal attacks on
me, usually accusing me of being a child molester, a rapist and so on
and so forth. He accuses me of being just about everything other than
a serial killer.

To cite a dozen recent examples of this, look at
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.chess.politics under the
heading: New evidence that Sam Sloan did in fact admit to have illicit
sex with an underaged prostitute. His current email address is


Bill Brock has vandalized or removed content from many of my Wikipedia
biographies. He tried to blank my biography of Tom Dorsch as well, but
was reverted.

After being warned by other administrators to stop doing this, Bill
Brock appealed to
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Howcheng.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Howcheng immediately not only
blanked the entire http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom Dorsch article,
but, using his powers as administrator, blanked the entire history and
discussion as well, so that nobody can see or recover what happened.
By that time, more than a dozen different editors had edited my Tom
Dorsch biography and as a result it was considerably different from
the way I had originally posted it on Wikipedia.

When I complained to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Howcheng about
doing this, he repeatedly threatened to block me if I do not stop
complaining. Prior to this action by
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Howcheng, I had posted about one
hundred biographies mostly of chess grandmasters and chess
personalities to Wikipedia. Because of the threats by
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Howcheng to block me, I have almost
completely stopped posting biographies to Wikipedia. There is no point
to my going to all the effort and trouble of writing a biography of
somebody if vandals who follow all my postings can immediately
substantially delete most of it. This applies not only to
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Bill_Brock, but also to a few other
vandals like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rook_wave,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Samscone and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Pierremenard. I do not object of
course to other editors rewriting, modifying and updating my
biographies. Indeed, the main reason why I write and post these
biographies to Wikipedia is I want to learn more about the person and
I want to see what others say about him. However,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Bill_Brock,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rook_wave,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Samscone and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Pierremenard do not try to improve
or expand the biographies. They simply delete almost all of it.
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Samscone has recently been blocked
by another administrator for doing this.)

If you will look under
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Sa...ith_Bill_Brock
you will see that http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Howcheng
repeatedly threatened to block me. However, I do not have an edit war
with Bill Brock. He has an edit war with me. Bill Brock has been
attacking me for years, long before Wikipedia even existed. On the
other hand, I have never edited anything written by Bill Brock, for
the simple reason that Bill Brock has never written anything, except
for attacks of me.

If you will look under
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikiped...ion/Tom_Dorsch
you will see that the vote for deletion was almost evenly divided.
Almost all of the votes for deletion were either by non-chess players
or people who dislike Tom Dorsch. Tom Dorsch is clearly notable. Just
ask any tournament chess player and you will find that he has heard of
Tom Dorsch.

At
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Bi...with_Sam_Sloan,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Howcheng writes:
\
Your war with Sam Sloan

I highly suggest you refrain from editing the Sam Sloan article,
especially if your contributions are going to be on the level of [1].
The category is for convicted pedophiles, just as Category:Rapists is
for convicted rapists (you have no idea how many times people have
tried to put Kobe Bryant in there). You need to stop bringing your
outside feud into Wikipedia. If this escalates, I'll have to block
both of you for disrupting the community (think of it as a time out),
and I would rather not have to. Calling him a pedophile serves no
purpose. As WP:NPA states, "Comment on content, not on the
contributor. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users."
If you feel his edits violate policy, state how and limit your
comments to policy only. Given what I've seen of his contributions,
most editors will likely agree with you. Regards, howcheng {chat}
17:06, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

On the surface, this appears to be a neutral comment. However, in
context one should realize that Bill Brock has only one purpose to
being on Wikipedia, which is to get me blocked. This comment by
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Howcheng says that if
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Billbrock continues to attack me,
then http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Howcheng will block both of us.
Since the purpose and objective of
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Billbrock is to get me blocked and
he does not care if he is blocked himself, since he has nothing to
contribute here anyway, this posting just encourages Bill Brock to
attack me more and indeed he has continued to attack me even today.

Regarding the Biography of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom Dorsch I
believe that http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Howcheng misused his
authority by blanking that article since
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom Dorsch is a well known and notable
person. I cannot reinstate the article myself, because there were
dozens of edits by other users and I do not know what the final
version was before http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Howcheng blanked
it as well as the history and the discussion of the article.

Accordingly, I request that the Arbitration Committee decide to
reinstate the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom Dorsch article.

==== Statement by party 2 ====
(Please limit your statement to 500 words)

==== Arbitrators' opinion on hearing this matter (0/0/0/0) ====

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikiped...ing_Tom_Dorsch

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