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Old February 12th 06, 03:11 AM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc,alt.chess
Louis Blair
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Default Wikipedia Dispute: Sam Sloan vs. Howcheng regarding Tom Dorsch and Bill Brock

==== Statement by [[User:Howcheng]] ====
- :Relevant discussion: [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tom Dorsch]]

- I believe this is essentially a request for undeletion and therefore
is outside the purview of ArbCom. [[User:Sam Sloan]] is free to request
a review of the deletion at [[WPRV]]. I suppose I did not need to
make the snarky comment about meatpuppets, but Mr Sloan clearly does
not understand AfD is not a vote.
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- However, allow me to address individual points raised by Mr Sloan.
First, I had no knowledge of this dispute prior to this article
deletion. I was simply closed the AfD and deleted the article per
consensus. [[User:Billbrock]] did appeal to me to intervene on
[[Talk:Chess Life]]
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?...ldid=33489234]
and I posted
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?...i d=33566471]
in response. My so-called "threats"
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?...ldid=33500593]
to block Mr Sloan were simply statements to the effect that if he
engaged in blockable actions then he would blocked.
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- My impression of Mr Sloan is that he does not and refuses to
understand Wikipedia policies and guidelines. I have given him numerous
links to [[WP:V]], [[WP:RS]], [[WP:CIVIL]], [[WP:AGF]], and [[WPEL]],
but he has repeatedly demonstrated no comprehension of these. He
distorts my words
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?...i d=35143321]
and continues to violate these policies
([http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?...ldid=33904383]
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?...did=38302173]).
He considers removal of unverified content vandalism
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?...id=3 2565312].
I believe he is operating with a [[m:MPOV]].
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- Furthermore, he has not even engaged in any of the steps for
resolving disputes before filing this request. No RFC has been filed
and he specifically rejected mediation
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?...i d=35143321].
If ArbCom were to accept this request, I personally feel Mr Sloan would
not like the outcome.
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- span style="font-family:Verdana;"'''[[User:Howcheng|span
style="color: #33C;"howch/span]][[WP:EA|span
style="color:#0F0"''e''/span]][[User:Howcheng|span
style="color:#33C"ng/span]]''' small{[[User
talk:Howcheng|chat]]}/small/span 18:15, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
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- ==== Statement by [[User:Rook wave]] ====
- I was not regarded as involved, but this is a bit strange, when
talking about the specific Tom Dorsch article. I was the first one to
make major changes in the article (called vandalism by
[[User:Sam_Sloan]]) and I was the one who later initiated the Request
for Deletion. There is an ongoing quarrel between [[User:Billbrock]]
and [[User:Sam_Sloan]], but [[User:Billbrock]] played only a small role
in the deletion of this specific article. He was just one of many who
gave their opinion in this process, so I don't see, why this dispute
and the deletion of the Tom Dorsch article are put together.
[[User:Rook wave|Rook wave]] 12:22, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

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