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Old February 12th 06, 07:41 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc,alt.chess
Paul Rubin
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Default Wikipedia Dispute: Sam Sloan vs. Howcheng regarding Tom Dorsch and Bill Brock

(Sam Sloan) writes:
On the other hand, International Master Carlson was referred to as a
"sock puppet". Here is what Carlson wrote

"KEEP - Dorsch is well known in the world of chess, and deserves
recognition. The article itself could use some polishing, but it
should be fixed and maintained."

Here is what was posted in response:

"It is suspected that this user might be a sock puppet or impersonator
of Sam Sloan. Please refer to contrib history coinciding with Sloan's
pet subjects "USCF blacklist" and Damiano's Defense for evidence. See
block log"


Wrong, the post that was suspected of coming from a sockpuppet was this one:

Keep--public figure based on own self-promotions, including on
usenet over a period years of years. --- The preceding unsigned
comment was added by 68.167.65.99 (talk - contribs).

That came from an anonymous user at IP address 68.167.65.99. The
previous edits from that anonymous user were about your pet subjects
"USCF blacklist" and Damiano's Defense, making you an obvious
candidate for their authorship.

Howcheng's comment about meatpuppets was in response to this:

Note Sloan has also attempted to recruit meatpuppets on Usenet [1],
though that attempt seems to have backfired--it attracted people here
who support deletion.

where [1] is a link to your rgcp post:

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.g...0e64ecc1e4f311

which says

It would be most helpful if anybody here went to the Wikipedia
site and added a paragraph or two or even a sentence about Tom Dorsch.

Also, please go to
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikiped...ion/Tom_Dorsch
and vote to keep.

That is an attempt to recruit "meatpuppets", people uninvolved in the
controversy who show up to cast votes at your request. (The difference
between meatpuppets and sockpuppets are that meatpuppets are at least
actual people, while sockpuppets are multiple posts coming from the
same person but pretending to come from different people). Meatpuppets
are against Wikipedia policy and are treated like sockpuppets:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:SOCK#Meatpuppets

But as the comment says, your attempt backfired.

In summary, Rook_wave, who put the article up for deletion, voted six
times for it to be deleted, Bollbrock voted three times,


Rook_wave and Billbrock each voted once. They made some additional
comments besides casting their votes, but comments are not votes.
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