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Old August 25th 06, 07:12 AM posted to rec.games.chess.misc
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Default GetClub Chess Challenge increasing (Taylor Kingston Beware)


Sanny wrote:
Yes. My internet connection is not likely to get any
better until they introduce WiMax, some time next year.
The WiFi connection at McDonald's restaurants is often
plenty fast, but apparently not good enough to make this
thing work right on my computer.



Your Game with Advance Level, has been Canceled without your Ratings
affected.



Thank you.


Start a new game at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html



Okay, I am now playing the Normal level, which moves *much*
more quickly. Unfortunately, the program has (three times so
far) announced that its current move is my last move. In other
words, its moves are not showing up on the chess board until
*after* I reply! Then they appear instantaneously, along with
my "reply". Then the program claims its last move was my
last move again, and I am again faced with an invisible move.
Please note that I am doing quite well so far, in spite of this
little problem. Obviously, my moves work well against almost
*any* replies.

I have paused this game, and will restart after I reboot and
open a new browser window, just to see if the problem
goes away by itself.


for example, the beginner level is only 100 points lower
than the next level, and so on. This only works if the
human player also speeds up his play, so that he makes
more careless errors against the faster-moving levels. In
that case, it is not inconceiveable that there would be only
100 points between levels, but more likely, the jump from
one level to the next should be much greater, and perhaps
the true range will not begin so high as 1700. OTOH, the



Play a few games with Beginner Level and let me know exact rating of
Beginner Level according to you.

As the Game has been improved. Earlier I was thinking it has 1600
Rating, So after improvements I feel the Rating would be 1700.

Since with each increase in level the depth is increased by 1, So I
feel +100 for each level is ok.



When you say the depth increases by 1, do you mean 1 ply,
or 1 full move (i.e. 2 plys)?


Suppose for example, that the number on screen represents
the depth of search, in plys. A search depth of say, 2 plys
might equate to around USCF 600, since at least the program
plays legal moves (except for the issue with King captures).
Increasing the depth to 3 plys might push the rating strength
to 800, and going up to 4 plys could get you 1000. But at
some point, there is a diminishing return. For example, if the
program could see 1,000,000 plys ahead, increasing this to
1,000,001 would not amount to any measureable gain
whatsoever, except against other million-ply-range computers.

If it turns out that the number 8 I kept seeing on the Advance
level represents plys, I seriously doubt the USCF rating could
possibly exceed say, 1600. Even thougn computers are
supposed to "see" everything, as opposed to humans, who
often blunder, computers lack strategic planning and many
are lacking in long-range position judgement. For example, a
computer might count tripled Rook-pawns as equal in value to
three pawns side-by-side. If I am not mistaken, Anatoly Karpov
won a game in which this type of thing happenned; Deep
Thought or some other strong program was busy gorging
itself on irrelevant pawns, while he Queened the one which
really counted. Humans can easily adapt on the fly, while
chess computer's must be programmed exactly right, in
advance, or they will stumble.

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