Ralf Callenberg wrote:
help bot schrieb:

Sanny's program uses a Java applet and in order for
such a test to be fair, the other programs would need
to run in a similar environment; otherwise you can get
an apples-to-oranges comparison which reflects upon
the difference in allocated hardware resources.

No, for me as a user I absolutely don't care about those constraints
for the programmer.

It is not the programmer which is constrained; it is the
user computer's resources. Heck, the mere fact that
I can run Windows and multiple browsers while Sanny's
chess program thinks in the background in itself shows
how this cannot be compared to any normal chess
program, which tries to hog as much resources as
possible to improve *playing strength* and for something
called *hashtables* -- two superfluous items which
Sanny's team have simply eliminated. ;D


BTW, I have played chess programs which were *much*
weaker than Sanny's, just not on any recent hardware.

Sure. But the challenge remains: a published program on current
machines playing against Sanny's program. Find a weaker one.

This one is quite weak enough for me; perhaps you
should do your own search? ;D

Many of the critics here are unaware of the real strength
of the program,

There was doubtless some progress, but it is still quite weak. I think,
when people lose against it, they just try too hard to win. Just relax
and play slowly. It will soon start making arbritrary moves without any
progress.

Proving my point. What you have just done is describe
in detail exactly how Sanny's program *used to* play. Now
I find that things are a bit more interesting -- but then, I am
not merely shifting wood myself. It is possible that the
real issue here is that you are shifting wood, and expecting
the chess program to come up with some interesting ideas?

You can slightly crash it positionally with a minimum of
effort, as it doesn't show the smallest positional intelligence.

This never bothered me; my complaint is and has been
that a computer has no excuse for being tactically
inferior to humans. Only if and when this problem is
overcome will I begin to groan about my vast superiority
in the realm of positional play. If and when the program
ever betters me in that area, I still have a few more items
I could whine about: the lighting, spectators (or a lack of
them), cameras, Russian cheaters, the prize money, etc.

-- gripe bot