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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 1:42 pm Post subject: Victim Claims
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I know this is sensational, but it's important for USCF members to see
why Sam's site is driving away potential sponsors. And it's important
for Sam to have a chance to bring his case to the participants in this
forum, as well. Hence this thread.

This is a quote from Sam's own "How to Rape a Woman" page, which
includes colloquy between Sam and email correspondents:

[begin quote]

You may think your letter on how to rape a woman is great, but I was
raped 3 months ago. The man who committed this crime will get away
with it because he followed you directions to a perfect fit. You are
right about one thing, if the man who does this to a woman does not
threaten or injure the woman he will get away with it. I have only one
more thing to say about your how to guide, if this ever happened to
anyone you love may the world never know. I hope some day you will
grow up and change your mind. Males do not and will never dominate the
female population. And that my friend is what rape is about. The man
will not always be in control, the woman always has something he
wants, and may never get.

Feel free to contact me on this matter.

[a separator is inserted in Sam's page here]

You told me to contact you if he used your guide. Well, you will be
happy to know and also happy that he is getting away with it. He has
been in jail for 3 months because of charges on him. I am not the only
one your "friend" has done this to. Thanks to your guide he will be
going home for x-mas. There was just not enough proof. I am sad to say
that I hope you feel a small bit guilty. You need to realize that what
you have out there is just the thing a pervert needs to really hurt
somebody. I only pray that somebody you love does not go through the
pain that many people have had. I hope you know that you have hurt
people. if you want to talk:

jessica@****** [email address truncated to protect victim's privacy]

[end quote]

Of course, we do not have enough facts to prove beyond a reasonable
doubt that Jessica's story really occurred. The main point of this
thread, though, is the effect that this page, and Jessica's account
posted on it, would have on a potential sponsor. The damage has
already been great, as discussed in another thread. Time for Sam to
clean up his act.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 1:49 pm Post subject: Victim
Claims Sam Sloan Website Aided Rapist Reply with quote
gregory wrote:
chrisfalter wrote:
samsloan wrote:
I have looked though the list of postings that Gregory Alexander calls
disgusting, and several of them are copied directly from the New York
Times.


Was "How to Rape a Woman" copied from the NY Times?


Mr. Sloan, this is a great question, care to answer?

Someone responded in your thread that she was raped, and she stated
that the person that raped her read your site, and the information
that you provided helped him to plan the act.


Hi Chris,

I already cited this as a question to Mr Sloan. I don't think that he
will answer. Here is a link to a watered down version of Mr. Sloan's
posts:
http://www.tatiana.net/forum/index.cfm?fPage=topic&topicID=198
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The loose cannon does not ask questions, nor does he care to assess
damages against the innocent; but keeps recklessly twisting and
turning his aim; and insists upon firing away. Bang, bang bang.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 1:58 pm Post subject: Reply with
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STOP ALREADY!! You are acting like a closet voyeur.
Do you intend to post this URL all over the Forum?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 2:01 pm Post subject: Reply with
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If you don't like looking at this link, imagine how sponsors feel
about our organization when they read this? This is a huge issue that
affects our organization, and for some odd reason, we want to pretend
that it does not exist.

This aint just 'stuff copied from the NY Times' as Mr. Sloan wants to
lead us to believe. These posts were made by someone sitting, and
running for a spot on the EB board, and I am providing proof of this.
We are in election season again, and it is time that we call it like
it is.

Don't shoot the messenger tsawmiller,
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 2:08 pm Post subject: Reply with
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tsawmiller wrote:
STOP ALREADY!! You are acting like a closet voyeur.
Do you intend to post this URL all over the Forum?


Last time the voters and membership of the USCF were "blamed" and
deemed to be responsible for electing Mr. Sloan to office. All that
most knew of Mr. Sloan was his candidate statement published in the
magazine. If the magazine has any value at all, it should editorially
also carry this content to all voters of who they might potentially be
electing. Then we will truly know if USCF membership wants this man on
the EB.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 2:27 pm Post subject: Reply with
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tsawmiller wrote:
STOP ALREADY!! ....


We have an Executive Board member, running for re-election, who has
this stuff publicly displayed on his personal website. I suggest that
you direct your outrage at the EB member, not at those who are doing
the little that is in their power to try to get him to remove this
unconscionable filth--or failing that, to bring this very important
matter to the attention of the voters....
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 3:22 pm Post subject: Reply with
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chrisfalter wrote:
tsawmiller wrote:
STOP ALREADY!! ....


We have an Executive Board member, running for re-election, who has
this stuff publicly displayed on his personal website. I suggest that
you direct your outrage at the EB member, not at those who are doing
the little that is in their power to try to get him to remove this
unconscionable filth--or failing that, to bring this very important
matter to the attention of the voters....


Chris, the problem is your post isn't going to get him to change a
thing. It's also not going to reach enough voters to really have an
impact. But hey, at least now we don't have to worry about a sponsor
finding it on Sam's site....they can find it right here on the forum.
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New postPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 3:36 pm Post subject: Reply with
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Smith wrote:
chrisfalter wrote:
tsawmiller wrote:
STOP ALREADY!! ....


We have an Executive Board member, running for re-election, who has
this stuff publicly displayed on his personal website. I suggest that
you direct your outrage at the EB member, not at those who are doing
the little that is in their power to try to get him to remove this
unconscionable filth--or failing that, to bring this very important
matter to the attention of the voters....


Chris, the problem is your post isn't going to get him to change a
thing. It's also not going to reach enough voters to really have an
impact. But hey, at least now we don't have to worry about a sponsor
finding it on Sam's site....they can find it right here on the forum.


1. Sponsors do not have access to this forum. They do, however, have
unfettered access to Sam's website. Without any help from this forum,
several sponsors have already discovered Sam's website and have nixed
potential sponsorships as a result. The horse is out of the barn...

2. Where else are members supposed to discuss these important but
sensitive issues?

3. Hundreds of members participate in this forum. Participants are
more likely to vote than non-participants. If I can persuade even a
couple dozen voters, that *might* make a big difference at election-
time. I'm willing to make the effort.

4. Who knows what Sam will decide to do? I'm not holding my breath,
but one can always hope.
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