On Apr 12, 4:45 pm,
On Apr 12, 6:04 pm,



On 12 Apr, 20:43,


EJAY wrote:
For the sake of this discussion you may
need to specify the number of moves
to define a miniature. 25 moves or less?

"David Richerby" wrote:
I've never seen the term `miniature' used to mean
anything other than a game of 25 or fewer moves.

"Ian Burton" wrote:
I've never seen it used to mean anything
but games under 21 moves -- 20 or less.

"Mark Houlsby" wrote:
25 or fewer is common. IIRC it was the limit used
by Julius du Mont for his classic text 200 Miniature
Games (the copy I read was borrowed from the library).

It varies.

In their biography of Najdorf, Lissowski and Mikhalchisin
repeatedly describe 26-move Najdorf wins as miniatures.
FWIW decisive and = 25 moves are the criteria which
built (and continue to build) my miniatures database (...).

"Taylor Kingston" wrote:
Chernev's book adhered to a maximum of 24 moves.

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Hey guys, can you spell: k a r p o v ? In his
(miniature :-) monograph with chess miniatures
by world champions, his limit is 30 (thirty) moves.
Did Karpov ever beat a GM under 20 moves in a
tournament or match play?

He has provided twice more miniatures by Tal
than for each of the other champions.

Somehow Karpov has managed to avoid
Kasparov's games (except for notes).
I used to have Karpov's book but no more.

Regards,

Wlod
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