On May 17, 1:27 pm, "David Kane" wrote:


If you are proposing a methodology (ranking players
according to move analysis), you can't simply
pull an algorithm out of thin air and pretend that it means
something. The burden is on the authors to *show* that
it is meaningful.

They have you idiot. It was a peer reviewed paper.

*They* should have done (at least partial)
analyses at much deeper ply, or on weaker players (if
computational time was severely limited), if they want
their method to have any credibility.

You don't understand 'normalization' do you, dimwit? Read all 220+
replies, especially mine and Dr. Walker's, and commit to memory. Then
and only then post here again. I see you flunked out of school, or
should have.

They should
also have looked for the correspondence with this
ranking method and alternate ranking methods (e.g. ELO)
especially in those cases where the alternate method
has a high degree of credibility (contemporary players
playing actively in a pool)

Means nothng. And the list presented does correlate very well with
ELO. Jeff Sonas' work found that Capa was #1 using ELO, and Kramnik
beat Kasparov and has a high Elo. Not the brightest bulb in the room,
are ya?


The two most basic questions anyone should have
upon reading this work are 1. How many moves do
you need to analzye? 2. How deeply do you need
to analyze them?

Shiite for brains: 1/ one move is sufficient, but logic tells you
more moves will give greater and finer "granularity". So with only
one move lookahead you could only rank "patzers" (like you) from "non-
patzers". With Crafty's 6+ move event horizon, you can get very good
granularity. Perhaps not as good as Rybka's but very good. And,
again, the principle of normalization says you do NOT need to look
further ahead than the best players. Why am I wasting my time with
you? Your own social worker says you're hopeless.


The excuse that it might have been hard to
address (which I don't believe, by the way) is
no excuse at all.-

You are an excuse. Quit wasting Dr. Andy's time. He is badgered as
it is by the idiot Help Bot, and now you have to chime in.

This is my very last post here. Sorry I even started this thread with
the retarded hoi polloi of this forum.

RL