A thread pulled last night from the USCF Issues Forum:
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by samsloan on Wed Oct 03, 2007 12:08 am #72195
I have filed a lawsuit against Truong, Polgar, USCF et al
The case has been filed in the United States District Court for the Southern
District of New York at 500 Pearl Street, New York NY 10007.
The case number is 07 CIV 8537
The judge is Judge Denny Chin
The Magistrate Judge is Judge Frank Maas
The suit seeks to overturn the results of the 2007 USCF Election on the
grounds of election fraud and to reinstate the directors who were thrown out
in that election until a new election can be held. The complaint alleges
that defendants Susan Polgar and Paul Truong impersonated Sam Sloan and sent
out three thousand obscene and pornographic newsgroup postings during the
election campaign in order to discredit Sloan and get themselves elected so
as to take over the USCF Finances.
The papers and pleadings filed in the Southern District of New York can be
downloaded at the following addresses:
http://www.samsloan.com/truong-summons.pdf Summons in Sloan vs. Truong
http://www.samsloan.com/truong-polgar-lawsuit.pdf Complaint
http://www.samsloan.com/truong-tro-app.pdf Application for a TRO
http://www.samsloan.com/truong-tro-pdf.pdf Unsigned Temporary Restraining
Order
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by Randy Bauer on Wed Oct 03, 2007 12:14 am #72196
samsloan wrote:I have filed a lawsuit against Truong, Polgar, USCF et al
The case has been filed in the United States District Court for the Southern
District of New York at 500 Pearl Street, New York NY 10007.
The case number is 07 CIV 8537
The judge is Judge Denny Chin
The Magistrate Judge is Judge Frank Maas
The suit seeks to overturn the results of the 2007 USCF Election on the
grounds of election fraud and to reinstate the directors who were thrown out
in that election until a new election can be held. The complaint alleges
that defendants Susan Polgar and Paul Truong impersonated Sam Sloan and sent
out three thousand obscene and pornographic newsgroup postings during the
election campaign in order to discredit Sloan and get themselves elected so
as to take over the USCF Finances.
The papers and pleadings filed in the Southern District of New York can be
downloaded at the following addresses:
http://www.samsloan.com/truong-summons.pdf Summons in Sloan vs. Truong
http://www.samsloan.com/truong-polgar-lawsuit.pdf Complaint
http://www.samsloan.com/truong-tro-app.pdf Application for a TRO
http://www.samsloan.com/truong-tro-pdf.pdf Unsigned Temporary Restraining
Order
Sam Sloan
It's a joke. It is full of unsubstantiated claims (what is known as
foundation in the legal parlance), juvenile factual errors (see for example
the physical address attributed to me) and laughable legal claims.
Tell us, Sam - what were the results (i.e., just who won and lost) in your
previous lawsuits? I don't recall you doing very well in your highly hyped
Crossville lawsuit (and don't give us the 'it was only a technicality'
defense - all that matters are wins and losses).
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by DACP on Wed Oct 03, 2007 12:24 am #72197
Randy Bauer wrote:It's a joke. It is full of unsubstantiated claims (what is
known as foundation in the legal parlance), juvenile factual errors (see for
example the physical address attributed to me) and laughable legal claims.
Tell us, Sam - what were the results (i.e., just who won and lost) in your
previous lawsuits? I don't recall you doing very well in your highly hyped
Crossville lawsuit (and don't give us the 'it was only a technicality'
defense - all that matters are wins and losses).
Some of us are not laughing about this "joke". There's also a lot of facts
in that lawsuit. And the fact that some newspapers (notice the plural) won't
be laughing about this as well is something the USCF might want to consider.
Donna Alarie
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by gregory on Wed Oct 03, 2007 12:42 am #72200
Donna,
Let me know when the NY Times publishes this.
Those who make constant threats typically realize that they have nothing
else substantial other than a weak bluff to force someones hand. This is a
stretch Donna.
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by Harry Payne on Wed Oct 03, 2007 12:50 am #72201
Having taken the time to read all of the lawsuit that Sam filed , I found
alot of it with that Sam flair. But as Donna states there is alot of facts
in it also. To write this off as a joke ,or to not see the possiblity of how
much publicity it may garner could be a serious mistake. How much is
provable is yet to be seen. It certainly turns the spotlight on some
possible dark areas. I am not sure I agree with Sam's reasoning ,but he has
the right to defend his name if any of the fake posting can be substained as
fact. As far as the election being overturned I have my doubts. But were I
some of the people named in the suit I would be concerned. Well another page
turns in the saga. Can Sam win? Stranger things have happened in our courts
of law ,who would have thought Ms Ohare's case would have found listening
ears. Or the pledge to the flag would have been debated for a moment , or
that cases would be pending because of the "In God We Trust" on our legal
tender. Yes stranger things have happened.
" Be not deceived, God is not mocked, whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he
also reap."
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by DACP on Wed Oct 03, 2007 12:52 am #72202
gregory wrote
onna,
Let me know when the NY Times publishes this.
Those who make constant threats typically realize that they have nothing
else substantial other than a weak bluff to force someones hand. This is a
stretch Donna.
Gregory,
Since you're named in the lawsuit and will have to find a way to defend it,
I'm just glad I'm me and you're you.
Donna Alarie
by gregory on Wed Oct 03, 2007 12:54 am #72203
DACP wrote:
gregory wrote
onna,
Let me know when the NY Times publishes this.
Those who make constant threats typically realize that they have nothing
else substantial other than a weak bluff to force someones hand. This is a
stretch Donna.
Gregory,
Since you're named in the lawsuit and will have to find a way to defend it,
I'm just glad I'm me and you're you.
How typical, and sad Donna. I never expected this type of behavior from you.
Shame on you,
Gregory Alexander
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of politics that are played.
by gregory on Wed Oct 03, 2007 12:54 am #72203
DACP wrote:
gregory wrote
onna,
Let me know when the NY Times publishes this.
Those who make constant threats typically realize that they have nothing
else substantial other than a weak bluff to force someones hand. This is a
stretch Donna.
Gregory,
Since you're named in the lawsuit and will have to find a way to defend it,
I'm just glad I'm me and you're you.
How typical, and sad Donna. I never expected this type of behavior from you.
What a bluff.
Shame on you,
Gregory Alexander
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by gregory on Wed Oct 03, 2007 12:54 am #72203
DACP wrote:
gregory wrote
onna,
Let me know when the NY Times publishes this.
Those who make constant threats typically realize that they have nothing
else substantial other than a weak bluff to force someones hand. This is a
stretch Donna.
Gregory,
Since you're named in the lawsuit and will have to find a way to defend it,
I'm just glad I'm me and you're you.
So, what exactly am I getting threatened with this Donna? I bet your not
going to tell me and think that you might scare me by keeping me in the
dark, but I will call your bluff as it is. Let me know where to send a
picture of my mugshot to the papers that publish this; what a bluff.
How very typical, and sad Donna. I never expected this type of behavior from
you.
Shame on you,
Gregory Alexander
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by DACP on Wed Oct 03, 2007 1:11 am #72204
gregory wrote:
How typical, and sad Donna. I never expected this type of behavior from you.
What a bluff.
Shame on you,
Gregory,
#1 - The Lawsuit was filed. It is a legal case.
#2 - I've seen the press releases that went out to several newspapers.
#3 - I didn't do any of it. So I don't know what type of behavior you are
talking about.
#4 - I read what Sam wrote - there's a lot of stretch in there, but there's
a lot of issues in there too that have factual basis.
Therefore, I have no clue what you think the "bluff" is. I just don't think
this is a joke or a laughing matter. Sam has put some issues out into the
public purview by filing the lawsuit and there is a strong possibility of
different newspapers who will take the issues raised seriously.
Donna Alarie
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by snits on Wed Oct 03, 2007 1:14 am #72205
If the press release is anything like the complaint, when they do their fact
checking they will likely come up with a different story. There are major
leaps in there unless someone would like to give more evidence than has been
provided thus far.
by gregory on Wed Oct 03, 2007 1:19 am #72206
Great, I will see Sam in court. He better be quite prepared Donna.
How is it that you saw this, do you have a legal posse around you that likes
to threaten and harrass people into getting your way? How much did you know
about this before it actually happened Donna. Your not innocent in the
company that you keep.
Gregory Alexander
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by DACP on Wed Oct 03, 2007 1:24 am #72207
gregory wrote:Great, I will see Sam in court. He better be quite prepared
Donna.
How is it that you saw this, do you have a legal posse around you that likes
to threaten and harrass people into getting your way? How much did you know
about this before it actually happened Donna. Your not innocent in the
company that you keep.
Gregory,
Take it up with Sam who filed the suit, not me.
As far as how I saw it...how about taking a look at the "other forums" out
there? They aren't all moderated.
Donna Alarie
Massachusetts Delegate
by Hal Terrie on Wed Oct 03, 2007 1:27 am #72208
gregory wrote:How is it that you saw this, do you have a legal posse around
you that likes to threaten and harrass people into getting your way? How
much did you know about this before it actually happened Donna. Your not
innocent in the company that you keep.
Gregory, Sam has published it just about everywhere on the internet.
Everyone has seen it, not just Donna. If you look at the first post in this
thread, you will find links to PDFs of the relevant documents.
-- Hal Terrie
by gregory on Wed Oct 03, 2007 1:29 am #72209
This is a joke. Have your friends sue me and everyone else that volunteers
their time to help chess Donna. Thanks for helping the state of the USCF. It
is so very much appreciated.
What the heck am I even doing trying to volunteer to help this community? Is
this crap worth it? I have lost count of the times that I have been
threatened to be sued now.
Gregory Alexander
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by gregory on Wed Oct 03, 2007 1:32 am #72210
"Since you're named in the lawsuit and will have to find a way to defend it,
I'm just glad I'm me and you're you." -- Donna
And let the posse leader jump in and laugh Hal. I am not scared.
Gregory Alexander
by Harry Payne on Wed Oct 03, 2007 1:46 am #72211
Gregory,
I think you are attacking the wrong person ,Donna did not file the suit. I
have not herad Hal's name even mentioned here. Although I believe alot of
the suit is puff, I think you might be wise to take it a bit more serious.
If some facts can be substained, it could get to be unpleasent. As I stated
in my earlier post ,stranger things have happen in our courts of law. If the
fake posting took place as it appears ,I may disagree with Sam's method but
he does have the right to defend his name. Just my take.
" Be not deceived, God is not mocked, whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he
also reap."
When young we sow our wild oats, as we get older we pray for crop failure.
In love of the game. Harry Payne
by snits on Wed Oct 03, 2007 1:49 am #72212
Who is supposed to pay the $20M ? I'm not sure I understand why the USA
needs to be listed as a defendant b/c Sam wants them to conduct an election.
Any legal eagle care to explain that part?
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by gregory on Wed Oct 03, 2007 1:54 am #72213
Harry Payne wrote:Gregory,
I think you are attacking the wrong person ,Donna did not file the suit. I
have not herad Hal's name even mentioned here. Although I believe alot of
the suit is puff, I think you might be wise to take it a bit more serious.
If some facts can be substained, it could get to be unpleasent. As I stated
in my earlier post ,stranger things have happen in our courts of law. If the
fake posting took place as it appears ,I may disagree with Sam's method but
he does have the right to defend his name. Just my take.
Donna is the posse leader and she will not have the last laugh in this one
Harry. I guess I will wait for the summons to cross my door. I can assure
you that Sam and company will have to pay dearly for summoning me to court,
and I will make sure to get a nice vacation in New York.
Gregory Alexander
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