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Old November 18th 07, 04:10 AM posted to rec.games.chess.politics, rec.games.chess.misc
Louis Blair
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Larry Parr wrote (Fri, 16 Nov 2007 22:29:51 -0800 (PST)):

7 ...
7 Readers may recollect that we published a letter written by
7 Richard Laurie to NMnot Kingston in 2002. In that letter,
7 among other points made, playwright Laurie stated that our
7 NMnot denied knowledge of a dispute between GM Larry
7 Evans and Eddie Winter.
7 ...
7 [Those versed in weighing evidence -- both lawyers and
7 historians] would want to know whether Mr. Laurie, as
7 discussed above, could convey his thoughts with precision.
7 They would examine the circumstances of the letter -- the
7 fact that it was written by someone uninvolved in chess
7 political spats, the fact that it was written by someone with
7 little knowledge of the personalities involved,
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"...
... [Gm Larry Evans] did [respond to my offer of a script
for his opinion]. ...
...
[GM Evans and Larry Parr] are big boys and can take care
of [writing in their defense] themselves. ...
...
... you have called GM Evans dishonest. ... It is too bad
you have not had as happy an acquaintance as I have
had with him, ...
..." - Richard Laurie to Taylor Kingston (March 2, 2002)
as presented by Larry Parr (Thu, 15 Nov 2007
08:05:37 -0800 (PST))
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Larry Parr wrote (Fri, 16 Nov 2007 22:29:51 -0800 (PST)):

7 the fact that it was written as a private communication
7 without any definite expectation that it would ever see
7 the light of day in a partisan dispute,
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"...
... I can see no reason not to notify people of the
fact and substance of our discussions. As you
can see a copy of this is going on to Evans.
..." - Richard Laurie (March 2, 2002) as presented by
Larry Parr (Thu, 15 Nov 2007 08:05:37 -0800 (PST))
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Larry Parr wrote (Fri, 16 Nov 2007 22:29:51 -0800 (PST)):

7 the fact that it was a friendly letter in overall tone, the fact
7 that concerns were expressed with civility rather than any
7 partisan rancor, and the like.
7
7 NMnot Kingston's response to the letter has been that Mr.
7 Laurie was lying, befuddled, muddled and evil. He denied
7 the Laurie claim.
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Was Taylor Kingston responding just to the one letter or
was he responding to the letter and a number of other
communications?
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Larry Parr wrote (Fri, 16 Nov 2007 22:29:51 -0800 (PST)):

7 ... We still have no proof that NMnot lied to Mr. Laurie
7 (that may be forthcoming). We only have evidence on
7 paper and indications of NMnot's character.
7
7 That's all we have. Judgment, for we will all make a
7 judgment, even if not to judge at all, comes down to
7 probability. ...
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It strikes me as noteworthy that something is not mentioned
in Larry Parr's discussion of "all we have":
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"Kingston to Laurie, 21 February 2002:
'... I am not aware of any personal attacks by Mr.
Winter, though admittedly I do not have the full
voluminous record of words that have passed
between [Winter and Evans] ...'" - Taylor Kingston
(Tue, 13 Nov 2007 07:38:53 -0800)
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We do not see Larry Parr proclaiming that Taylor Kingston
has confessed. It appears that LP does not see the "personal
attacks" quote as confirming Richard Laurie's allegation.
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Is Larry Parr willing to confirm that the Feb. 21, 2002 quote
does not amount to a denial that Taylor Kingston was "aware
of the battle between Evans and Winter"? Is Larry Parr
willing to affirm that Richard Laurie wrote inappropriately
if the "personal attacks" quote is the basis for RL's assertion
that Taylor Kingston wrote such a denial?
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Larry Parr wrote (Fri, 16 Nov 2007 22:29:51 -0800 (PST)):

7 My judgment tells me that Mr. Laurie, a man versed in the
7 niceties of language, was not likely to have misunderstood
7 NMnot's meaning and that he had no motive at that time to
7 misrepresent NMnot's meaning. ...
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What does Larry Parr think about this Richard Laurie
perception?
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"OPEN LETTER FROM RICHARD LAURIE (April 2 2006):
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'...
... All anyone has to do is read Kingston's article in Chess
Life (about Keres throwing games to Botvinnik in the 1948
World Championship] to see that he denigrated Evans'
ability to analyze by saying Nunn was the better player.
...'" - Larry Parr (Tue, 06 Nov 2007 19:24:27 -0800)
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"Nunn is 'generally considered a stronger player than
Evans'" - Larry Parr presentation (Thu, 15 Nov 2007
08:05:37 -0800 (PST)) of a Richard Laurie description
(March 2, 2002) of what Taylor Kingston wrote (1998)
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Larry Parr wrote (Fri, 16 Nov 2007 22:29:51 -0800 (PST)):

7 ... NMnot, whom we know to possess an ego so vast and
7 fragile as to require him to post under false names on this
7 forum IN PRAISE OF HIMSELF, for Pete's sake.
7 ...
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What about those "others" who supposedly agreed with
Larry Parr on the "highlighted" and "singled out" controversy?
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"... Duras-Teichman (Ostend, 1906) is a famous
game, and NM Kingston highlighted the best-known
position in this famous game. Whereupon, he
failed to tell the reader the most interesting thing
about the best-known position in the famous game.
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Someone with a normal ego would write as follows:
'... For purely illustrative purposes, I obviously ought
to have chosen another position if I were not up to
the mark of pointing out the most important point in
the position I singled out.'" - Larry Parr (26 Apr 2006
19:05:22 -0700)
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"In reality, Taylor Kingston did not even mention the
position [in his review of a book by Soltis]. He simply
selected a sentence from the [Soltis] introduction to
the game as an example of the failure of GM Soltis
to provide such information as the round in which the
game was played" - Louis Blair (2 Jun 2006
01:03:30 -0700)
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"This writer and others have argued that if one
references Duras-Teichmann, as NM Kingston did
in his review of the Soltis volume, then one is
perforce highlighting ..." - Larry Parr (5 Jun 2006
20:29:53 -0700)
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"Who are these others?" - Louis Blair (5 Jun 2006
22:44:43 -0700)
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