On Dec 6, 3:17 pm, "Chess One" wrote:
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On Dec 6, 12:35 pm, "Chess One" wrote:
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Kasparov is in a dangerous position at the moment. One of the factors
that gives him the freedom to oppose the regime is the attention of
the international chess community to the former world champion. It
should be a no-brainer for the USCF; loudly announce support for his
attempts to maintain democracy in Russia.

While I agree at a personal level with Jerry Spinrad about the importance
of
Kasparov's public stance in support of democratic practice in Russia - I
would first like to see USCF support democracy in chess in this country
by
allowing USCF members to actually comment on 'chess governance'.

Should it fail to do that then it is likely to be dismissed has
hypocritical.

Secondly, I would then like to see USCF, via advocacy for Kasparov if it
deems it prospective, to then advocate for democracy in Fide.

Should both the above be attained, then by all means let us support
democracy in the wider sphere of national politics.

Even if the cause was not important of itself (I feel it definitely
is), this is a rare opportunity for the USCF to be part of positive
publicity about chess; a chess player is acting like a true hero. Let
us celebrate that fact while we give him what little support we are
able to provide.

I very much like this sentiment. Would that USCF's support be credible.
At a
personal level I agree completely.

Phil Innes

Jerry Spinrad (who still has not been able to get onto the USC orum)-
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Here comes Phil Innes. The United States should interfere in the
internal affairs of the Government of Russia.

Actually, I said 2 rather different things Marcus - 2 very difficult things
to do before 'interfering' with any idea of democracy since it seems to me
that if you cannot demonstrate it, then you have nothing to talk about.

This is none of our business. Is it fair? No. Do we want Phil Innes to
interfere in the affairs of Russia, No.?

Of course we don't want Phil Innes to interfere with 'affairs' in Russia,
especially since these affairs are only quasi-democratic to begin with, and
by all accounts queasy-democratic in practice.

What is our business (United States of America) is the death threats
made of his associates - namely Susan Polgar. The United States
Should prosecute Paul Troung, husband of Susan Polgar, and stay the
hell away from liberals from the northeast
Who profit from the molestation of children in chess.

Phil Innes works with Susan Polgar. I wonder how much he gets paid for
this support?

Marcus - if someone threatened me I would not speculate on usenet. You do.
This may only be a tempermental difference in our personalities.

I am not sure about your reference to molesting children, since when I raise
the issue of standards I never see you on the ramparts.

Phil Innes





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Phil Innes writes:

"Marcus - if someone threatened me I would not speculate on usenet.
You do.
This may only be a tempermental difference in our personalities."

Well, unless you have had somebody threaten to kill you (and mean it)
I wouldn't make
statements about what you would do in a sitaution you have never
faced. You just don't
know what you do, until you cross that bridge....

You have no idea the pressures I face, nor do I have any idea of your
pressures.

Nor would I (like Sam Sloan did) hand Bill Kellhner a bunch of files
on me, and go down
to St Kitts and Nevis, and give the files to a foriegn government.

Perhaps I do not have a choice, Phil. This is all about money!

Marcus Roberts
Permanent Delegate of St Kitts and Nevis to FIDE