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Old March 5th 08, 05:25 PM posted to rec.games.chess.misc
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Default Game with Beginner Level

On Mar 4, 1:13 pm, Sanny wrote:

Here is a game by me with Beginner Level. It was a Drawn Position But
I had to resign as Computer was not accepting Draw.


The final position is an easy win for Black, not
a draw.

So tell me what do you think my Rating is it 1100 or 1200 or 1800 ???
As Beginner Level is 1700-1800 My rating must be lower than it.


First of all, the game was not finished. A twofold
repetition of position is not claimable; you need to
be in a position to repeat for the *third time* before
you could legally claim a draw.

If you are talking about what was obviously going
to happen, the program does not know how to win
this type of position, as it keeps giving itself a
bonus for hiding its King in or near a corner.

Several times in this game you (Sanny) made
poor moves which aimed at *any* exchange of
pieces, regardless of how it might affect the
position. This strategy succeeded in that you
ultimately reached a simple ending which the
program is obviously unable to win. However,
this is not a demonstration of skill inasmuch it
is a demonstration of dumb luck; you could just
as easily reached a position where the program
stumbled upon a win. For instance, it might
have Queened a couple of pawns (you were
down two right near the end) by sheer chance,
or dumb luck.

I cannot estimate a chess rating by looking at
just one or two games; all I can say is that if
you had been playing me and you played like
this, your chances of getting a win or a draw
would be zero. Zilch. Nada.

Not too long ago, I faced an opponent who
knew a lot more than you do about chess, and
although his primary goal was to avoid making
a losing blunder, his secondary goal or strategy
was obviously to just trade off pieces-- as many
as humanly possible. However, in striving to
force such trades, he kept making small
concessions which, taken together, added up
to a winning advantage for me though I had
done nothing special. I did not fear or avoid
these trades, because I saw that each one had
a significant cost in terms of his position.

Even apart from your piece-trading strategy,
you made some elementary tactical errors, as
can be seen from your needlessly losing two
pawns, for instance. People who toss out a
number like 1100 are just guessing; you need
to compete against rated players in order to
get something more accurate.

It is hard for me to try and visualize exactly
how weak an 1100 player is; I know that a
few games I have watched near their finishes
had, say, 1400 players drawing won positions,
1600s who in time pressure could not polish
off a 1400, etc. Still, these days an 1100 is
not necessarily a scholastic player, an eight
year old or a rank beginner. It could be an
adult who simply cannot stay on top of tactics
nearly as well as the 1400 players I mentioned
above.

Here is an idea: go to one of the other chess
sites, like say chessworld.com, and play
several rated games. The time control may
be ridiculously slow, but at least you will get
a number-- a real rating, based on your real
results, and not just guesswork.


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