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On Mar 25, 6:38 pm, "Chess One" wrote:

**people who disagree should tell Boris Spassky their fascinating
opinions.
It certainly served him against 2500-2600 players, which is probably
no
inhibition to anyone reading in this newsgroup.

A crucial correction: Boris Spassky was
*not* limited in his success with the King's
Gambit to 2500-2600 players; in fact, his
most famous wins include one against
Bobby Fischer; in sum, GM Spassky
seems to have had no particular limit
whatever here.

I am sorry, but any singular instance does not comprise any 'whatever'
statement.

Who said it was a singular instance?

To take your question literarally, you did.

For those who are not lost in a fog of
ignorance, several such wins can quite
easily be located in a matter on minutes.
For instance, in addition to beating BF,
GM Spassky also nailed GM Bronstein
and GM Karpov with his King's Gambit.

Once!

The game with GM Bronstein reminded
me of the one with GM Fischer,

Which was in 1960! [Mar del Plata] where Fischer seemed to err in a
Kieseritzky with 11. ... c5?

in that
GM Spassky seemed to not be bothered
a bit by his "material shortage"; he just
played to win, which to his mind involved
direct attacks on the enemy King.

Yes - his other trademark was B x N on f6, and he made a living out of that
too.

Spassky's trainers told him it wouldn't work at the top level.


This /could/ explain why the wins I
found were not from his peak years, but
from those both before and afterward.

But then, that was in a database of
"uploaded" games which is undoubtedly
far from comprehensive.


And it
doesn't, otherwise we would see a KG at 2700 level, and we do not.


The closest *win* I found was against
GM Karpov, in 1982.

Spassky -Xie Jun, Monaco 1994 [Kieseritzky]
Spassky-Seirawan, Monpellier 1985, 1-0

I did not check to
see the list of GM Spassky's losses as
White in the King's Gambit. Let's see...
World Champion Karpov was rated what
back then? 2700ish? Oh-- did I mention
that he was the world champion? LOL!

Let you not get overexcited about half a dozen games in a carear - since
indeed if Spassky HAD felt that it was a viable opening at 2600-2700 level,
he surely would have utilised it much more.

This returns to the first point I made, and what you cite are 'surprise'
exceptions to the rule. Your list actually supports what I am saying, since
if there are half a dozen wins with the KG at tops levels, is that still as
much as 1% of Spassky's repetoire?


But this is to escape help-not's own point, which was to challenge the d6
pawn and d4 being the only way.


My computer examined the famous
game GM Spassky vs. GM Fischer
from 1960, and rejected our man's
commentary from MSMG, saying:

"Black was just losing the whole time!
A pawn down, some interesting
complications, but nothing *I* couldn't
handle easily. Black tossed it away
by a single tactical blunder, and White
mopped up neatly." -- Fritz

You should make it clearer in the first place if it is help-bot or Fritz who
is offering opinions. Both are nothing more than argumentative declarations.
Only Greg Kennedy can have an understanding of what he himself knows of
chess ~ and let that be a lesson to you about your psychological use of a
persona ~ one which has been refuted recently by the entire newsgroup on
chess understanding and chess history.

Phil Innes


-- help bot