On Mar 27, 5:27 pm, SBD wrote:
On Mar 27, 9:36 am, Sanny wrote:

Only Strong players like Help Bot and Skoop are able to beat the
Beginner Level as they play nice strategies to win the games.

Anyone rated above 1100 can beat the pants off Beginner level again
and again and again!


That claim is ridiculous. The program plays
reasonably well in the middle game, and only
*if* such a player somehow survived to the
endgame would he find himself at a significant
advantage.

Personally, I think I could beat a roomful of
USCF 1100 players in a simultaneous, while
taking the GetClub program too lightly has
sometimes resulted in draws or even a rare
loss, now and then. Although I would prefer
to have real players with real ratings to go by,
if I had to guess I would put the Beginner
level at somewhere nearer USCF 1500 than
USCF 1100-- maybe even higher, since the
glaring weakness in the endgame is quite
irrelevant unless a player is strong enough
to successfully exploit it.

Now here is the problem: there is no set
time limit on the human opponent at Get
Club, so a weak player can think as long
as he likes, and that means the program
is getting short shrift. I expect that if we
could equalize the thinking times, even
GetClub's Beginner level would rise to
a level closer to 2000 USCF, merely by
being a Pentium-class computer and not
a human.


-- help bot