On Apr 1, 7:44 pm, Mike Murray wrote:

You *asserted* that. Who disputed your assertion about what his
trainers said? Nobody. So, there WAS no argument, unless you were
arguing with yourself.


I wouldn't rule that out; nearly-an-IMnes has
often been found to be arguing with the wrong
person, and once he even got into a dispute of
sorts with his puppet-master, Larry Parr. LOL!


We were arguing about whether Spassky considered the KG viable
against top-level players.


You lost that one, Phil, and it makes you look the fool. Deal with
it.

At this point, Taylor Kingston, inconveniently for you, discovered
Spassky had essayed the KG in twenty-eight games (and the Bot remarked
there were probably a few others that didn't make Kingston's database)
and, more importantly, that this list included names like Averbakh,
Bronstein (twice), Fischer, Najdorf, Korchnoi, Seirawan, Karpov,
Portisch,Matanovic, Krogius and others.

28 games against in his entire carear - is Mike Murray's point. Point? What
is his point?

Murray's point is that when the 28 games included opponents like
Averbakh, Bronstein (twice), Fischer, Najdorf, Korchnoi, Seirawan,
Karpov, Portisch,Matanovic, Krogius, and others, Spassky must have
considered the KG a viable tool against super-GMs.

How would Phil respond, with his face being rubbed in his own
falsehoods and non sequiturs? We waited and suffered no
disappointment.

That way!

You mean, of course, the way of bluster, fuming, denial, insult.
Sure. it's your standard modus operandi. No surprises there.


What's up with all this Latin gibber-jabber?
(Qui bono?)


You try " I am merely reporting what Spassky's trainers told him."
Phil, what Spassky's trainers told him wasn't in dispute. We were
talking about what that stubborn fellow Spassky believed and
practiced.
28 games in his carear - right or wrong?


Wrong. It's spelled "career". I seriously
doubt that /every game/ played by Boris
Spassky appears in the 2005 Megabase,
so it would be silly to argue from this as if
it were known to be /comprehensive/.


Then, you have the gall to proclaim, "I am reporting that he did not
use it very successfully at the top levels". This despite Taylor
Kingston showing Spassky DID use it repeated against top players
(Averbakh, Bronstein (twice), Fischer, Najdorf, Korchnoi, Seirawan,
Karpov, Portisch,Matanovic, Krogius) and, more importantly, without
loss of a game!


I think he would have lost if he had tried it
against Deeper Blue. But then, we weren't
talking about 2900+ players. The book
which nearly-IMnes is coping out of this
time put the cutoff at only 2600.


But importantly he, at the time of Fischer, as the great Soviet Champion
could only draw with it, before Rejavik, and also immediately after. And not
against anyone the calibre of Fischer.
So Mike Murray argues these 28 games are somehow significant in a way I
failed to mention. What way?


They appear to contradict and *refute* the idea
that nearly-an-IMnes copied out of some book;
that idea was that BS could not use the KG
against players above the 2600 level, as we
already know. (Some people are merely slow,
while others have the four winds howling within
their empty craniums!)


They included super-GMs such as Averbakh, Bronstein (twice), Fischer,
Najdorf, Korchnoi, Seirawan, Karpov, Portisch,Matanovic, Krogius, and
others

And last, but not least, you add lamely, " and his last five uses of
it were all draws against players much lower ranked than him."
Really? The last five uses were draws against lower ranked players?
Well, one of these five was Korchnoi, but we'll ignore this for a
moment. We'll also ignore the fact that Spassky was OLDER then and
inclined to be a bit more peaceful.


The cold hard truth is that Boris Spassky's
rating dropped hundreds of points-- far more
than would be expected due to his aging.
I would like to know what BS has to say
about this.


Mike thinks Korchnoi is older than Sapssky, and what of the other 4 outings
? Nothing...

I said nothing about Spassky's age versus Korchnoi's.


Are you trying to suggest that the above
bluster was less than creative?


Spassky was older when he played the last five games than he was when
he played the other 23.


If listed chronologically, he was older in each
and every game than in the ones before. And
younger the closer you get to the first game.
In fact, he is still aging today! But what the
Sam Hill has this got to do with... .


when caught saying something dumb, Phil blusters, fumes, changes the
subject and pretends he said something else.


Nearly-an-IMnes is nothing if not consistent.


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