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Old May 1st 08, 08:04 AM posted to rec.games.chess.analysis,rec.games.chess.misc,alt.chess,rec.games.chess.computer
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Default Analyze game between Help Bot & Normal Level

On May 1, 1:22 am, Sanny wrote:

I "face it now" by trading down to an elementary win,
only to have the game wrongly adjudicated as a draw
because somebody atGetClubdoesn't know much
aboutchess. :D


KBB vs. K is a forced win, just like KR vs. K is.


I know KBB vs K is forced win.

But when Computer has 2 Bishops extra and it will never be able to
find a win. So the game will never end.



Ah, but it wasn't the GetClub program which had
the two Bishops; it was *me*.

Generally speaking, I can mate with a K&Q very
quickly and easily. With K&R just as easily, but
it may take a little longer. With KBB I have to
work more, to coordinate three men instead of
only two. But all of these are elementary wins,
even for me.

However, I will admit that with KBN, there is a
chance I could overstep the fifty moves rule, *if*
the program is an excellent defender. Another
theoretical win which I cannot always prevail in
would be K&Q vs. K&R-- if the program is
using the endgame table-bases.

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Now, let me ask you honestly: why is it that
in every instance where something like this
happens, the result is slanted in favor of the
GetClub program-- and never the other way?
The answer is obvious: you cheat.

When mere incompetence is the problem,
the results are *random*, favoring either side
in no particular pattern. At GetClub, the
result is always a free win or draw for your
program. Just look at the reported win/loss
record for "help bot" and "nomorechess", for
instance: *numerous* losses and draws
which were in reality, not lost or drawn at all.
Yet I cannot think of a single case where I
was "given" a free win, in a losing position.
Coincidence? Not hardly.


-- help bot


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