On May 1, 4:20 am, Sanny wrote:

When mere incompetence is the problem,
the results are *random*, favoring either side
in no particular pattern. AtGetClub, the
result is always a free win or draw for your
program. Just look at the reported win/loss

Ok what about.

1. Humans can take as much time as needed?


Good point. For rated games, you could place
a limit, so that the poor microprocessor is not so
vastly outclassed by us "speedy" thinkers, by
humans.


2. Human can take help of Opening Books?


True. Especially with the lack of time limits, if I
want I can go to, say, chessopenings.com and
try -- I say TRY -- to find some info on what line
we are playing. Or I could crack open a chess
book or two; your program can't do that.


3. Humans can take help from other Chess Computers?


This is obviously a problem. Zebediah, for instance,
is clearly operating a decent chess program, against
which your Java applet has no real chance. I don't
have an answer to this problem; but if you wanted to,
you could arbitrarily "ban" players you believe are
"cheating", just as you quite arbitrarily do so many
other things.


So Humans have a lot of opportunity to cheat the poor GetClub Program.


True. So then, your reasoning is that two wrongs
make a right (that's incorrect math, by the way).


If you win the game with good margin it will never be able to cheat
you.


Oh, I have had all sorts of different margins by
which I was winning, only to be cheated one way
or another. I don't think it has anything to do
with /margins/.


Only when the game ends in a Draw It can take little Benefit.


But the game did not end in a draw; it was a win
for me! :D

The way I see it, your Web site simply has the
wrong result recorded, and the wrong ratings as a
result. Even *if* the game had to be adjudicated
at that point -- let's say that WWIII broke out or
something crazy like that -- the correct adjudica-
tion was a win for me. I cannot be held responsible
if you and all your loony programmers are insane... .
:D


It will only devlare a difficult drawish game to a Draw. And with Draw
games you do not loose Ratings.


I am not going to studiously avoid winning by
trading down to certain endings, just because
your Web site doesn't know the rules of chess.
Chess, you see, is a game, and in these we all
have to accept the actual rules-- otherwise we
can't play! It's like Mr. Kasparov, who decided
that the touch-move rule did not apply if he was
going to hang a piece-- or rather, thought he
was. That's not real chess.


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