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Old June 28th 09, 10:23 PM posted to rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.politics
Taylor Kingston[_2_]
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On Jun 28, 4:14*pm, " wrote:
A NEW ONE

I have not followed this debate on eugenics very closely. *Is my
understanding correct that Greg Kennedy cannot answer some questions
from Taylor Kingston because historical information is copyrighted?

That's a new one, if such is what this clown from Indiana is claiming.


Here's a brief summary of the relevant statements, Larry:

Help-bot: "Many a fool has come to swallow whole the myth that /only
the Germans/ went in for the Eugenics movement; in reality, there were
very similar crimes against humanity all across the western hemishere
[sic], including in the USA and Canada, in which such nasty 'Nazi-
style' practices as sterilization worked their way into law ...
"In sum, the difference between what the Nazis did in the WWII era
and what others did, was a question of degree, not of principle."

I considered this absurdly disproportionate, and challenged Kennedy
to specify what "very similar crimes against humanity" have been
committed by the USA and Canada, that are remotely comparable to "what
the Nazis did in the WWII era."
His reply was evasive: "Were it not for the fact that it is
copyrighted material, I would be happy to make a few copies of some
enlightening discussions of these matters for Mr. Kingston's perusal,
at his lesiure [sic]."
To which I replied: "You can certainly name authors and titles, and
even post brief quotes, without violating copyright. However, I rather
doubt you'll do even that."
When he added: "But we all know that would just be a waste of time,"
I replied "Our Greg is already bailing out. He knows his pretense of
erudition is pure fraud and bluff."

He has since cited not a single source to support his claim about
the USA and Canada committing "very similar crimes against humanity."
He has merely fallen back on a lame and trivial argument that it was a
matter of degree, not principle, apparently implying that if the USA
or Canada has ever committed even one injustice, they're essentially
no better than the Nazis. My point is that however unjust such things
as the Supreme Court decision in Buck v. Bell were, calling them "very
similar" to Nazi crimes is a gross distortion.

BTW, Buck v. Bell is the one specific American case of involuntary
sterilization that has been mentioned in the discussion. I brought it
up, not Kennedy, but of course our Greg keeps saying he's the one who
knows history.