Heil Dubya!

Poor "Briarroot" is appallingly ignorant. Will someone please point out to
her/him/it documentation concerning Dresden, Hiroshima and Nagasaki (all within
a few months in 1945)? I think (s)he/it will believe what is printed in the
United Statesian propaganda organs (such as The New York Times). As for the U.
S. invasion of Korea, begun on 25 June 1950, (almost immediately after John
Foster Dulles FLEW away from the North/South Korea border), I concede that it
would be impossible to get her/him/it even to look at documentation of others
than her/his/its preferred U. S. propaganda sources.

NoMoreChess wrote:

Briarroot seems to have taken the general position that any criticism of
the United States, (or any action it has ever taken), is a bad thing *in
itself*.

That is not my position at all, I merely wish to offer some
balance to what I consider to be a series of one-sided attacks.

(One sentence snipped.)

Charges of wrongdoing or immorality or bungling are to be dismissed
out-of-hand, because it is unacceptable to even *consider* such charges
against the U.S., regardless of merit. I say this because he has not
even bothered to consider the possibility that we may have done exactly
what Nick's posting suggested we did -- or at least so it seems, to me.


(Much snipped.)

BTW, we don't *need* the Korean War in order to know that the U.S.A. has,
in fact, stooped to levels considered *by us* to be well beneath our
stated,
high moral principles.

Even if we were to simply accept Briarroot's position that such hideous
acts as nuking Japan were absolutely necessary, we still have to admit to
blundering, to actions which are unconscionable given our current stated
beliefs with regard to racism, and the value of human life.
We still would have to admit to other violations of conventions to which
we are a signatory. We would still have to admit that -- even when we were
certain of easy victory from the start -- we have needlessly resorted to
"experimenting" on the enemy using weapons of a particularly nasty sort,
when others would have managed the same objective, without all the mess.
We could argue about specific weapons, but that is beside the point.
Humans are not guinnea pigs -- unless they happen to be a different
color, that is.

I would be interested hearing of any documented examples of such
behavior
by the US in World War Two, or the Korean War.

(Much more snipped.)

Heute Uhmuhrikkka, Afghanistan und Irak. Morgen die ganze Welt!

Uhmuhrikkka, Uhmuhrikkka uber Alles!

Fraternally,

Jerome Bibuld
gens una sumus