"NoMoreChess",

Heil Dubya!

How wrong you are! Of course, if I had been shown where it was written, I
would have cried, "Fascism!" and refused to have complied. (Perhaps you
haven't read that I learned from George Jackson -- BLOOD IN MY EYE -- that
fascism is the UNITY of the bourgoisie and the government. I have posted this
information on these fora in the past.)

Larry Parr is RIGHT. My objection is to a fascist society, which has as one of
its purposes -- in order to "maintain order" -- the forcing of common citizens
to jump through hoops. I do not object to "reasonable requests"; I do consider
ALMOST ALL demands (They ALMOST NEVER are requests.) for "identification" to be
unreasonable.

While I think we agree on certain basic philosophical issues, I also think that
you enjoy playing the troll almost as much as I enjoy winning -- or, even,
losing -- a hard fought -- and accurately played -- chess game, almost any
opera, composed by Verdi or a dozen others, any motion picture by Chaplin. I
DON'T enjoy your troll-PLAYING, which is why I send out the occasional
CORRECTION of it.

NO, it has NOT been "explained here why such records must be maintained of cash
refunds, just as with rebates". It merely has been justified, by repeating the
lies of our rulers.

Mr. Bibuld got his refund and ticket without providing his ID, though the
cops confiscated it. That's fine. Bibuld held to the point at issue.


No. The point at issue was "where is it written...?", and to this day,
Mr.
Bibuld does not know where, or why.
He only knows that this will get him some attention, and if he does not
"improve" [i.e. change] his attitude, some jail time as well. I think it
was
already explained here why such records must be maintained of cash refunds,
just as with rebates -- to discourage abuse.


I not only made no reference to Fischer's booklet on his arrest in Pasadena,
but the only inferences that the the two incidents are related have come from
nincompoops and trolls. [In fact, the two arrests were related, but only in
the sense that both of us were fighting fascism, although poor (in my opinion,
sick) Bobby didn't realize it, while I was doing it "consciously and
maliciously".] As for my conduct being disorderly, that's a phony charge used
as a catchall by the various armies of occupation and their associated police
departments to enforce the suzerainty of their regimes. (I was arrested a few
dozen times during the "civil rights" movement of the 1960s and 70s in the U.
S. A. and believe that ONE of the charges in EVERY case was disorderly conduct.
Since then, in my continued treason against our fascist rulers, I have been
arrested, perhaps, a dozen more times and can;t remember an arrest in which one
of the charges was not "disorderly conduct".)

this was
merely a copycat re-run of Fischer's Passadena jailhouse incident, and
nowhere
near as entertaining. And Fischer was approached by the police, without
first
doing anything stupid. Mr. Bibuld was creating a (miniscule) public
disturbance, by obstinately blocking a ticket window. His conduct was
(slightly) disorderly, in that he refused to get out of the way so that other
customers could be served.

I have refuted the following error of your imagination in my first two
paragraphs above. I repost your words simple to refer you again to those first
paragraphs.

here the failure was not with the government, nor the police department
-- it was a failure by the ticket counterperson and his boss, to politely
explain why they needed to see Mr. Bibuld's ID in order to comply with his
request. "Where is it written? Show me." "No -- go away." If Mr. Bibuld
had been a "secret shopper," they would both have been in hot water.

Finally, despite your apparent thickheadedness, I still believe that "education
is repetition". Please repeat after me: "Uhmuhrikkka, NOT Uhhmuricuuh;
Uhmuhrikkka, NOT Uhhmuricuuh; Uhmuhrikkka, NOT Uhhmuricuuh." It is not
important that there is a small difference in pronunciation. It is TERRIBLY
important that you substitute "c, as in Charlie" for "kkk, as in Ku Klux Klan"

Heute Uhmuhrikkka, Afghanistan und Irak. Morgen die ganze Welt!

Uhmuhrikkka, Uhmuhrikkka uber Alles!

(Was 11 September 2001 Kristalnacht or the date of the Reichstag fire?)

Fraternally (believe it or not),

Jerome Bibuld
gens una sumus