Bob Musicant wrote (2003-09-21 15:13:03 PST):
Lance,
I looked at what Evans said, and don't see
anything significant about it.
Evans thought Fischer's conditions were
unfair.

Lance Smith wrote (2003-09-22 06:45:37 PST):
Bob,
...
You forgot to post what GM Larry Evans had
to say about the Soviets, ...

I wrote (2003-09-22 15:23:38 PST):
I see no reason why Bob Musicant should be
obliged to post any of what GM Evans had to
say. Lance Smith himself did not quote any
of it in his 2003-09-16 08:42:38 PST note.
If Lance Smith wants some of it to be posted
here, he should do so himself instead of
pestering others to do the posting for him.


Lance Smith now writes (2003-09-23 07:35:24 PST):

"Evans thought Fischer's conditions were
unfair." --Bob Musicant

Dr. Blair,

Actually, I did not pester Bob on this issue,

_
Everyone can look at the 2003-09-22 06:45:37
PST Lance Smith comment (see above) and come
to their own conclusions about that.


Lance Smith now writes (2003-09-23 07:35:24 PST):

I just reminded him to be fair and post the
quote in its entirety. To me, that is very
important.

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Again, I see no reason why Lance Smith should
be obliged to post the GM Evans quote in its
entirety. Lance Smith himself had not done
so.


Lance Smith now writes (2003-09-23 07:35:24 PST):

Pestering is stalking someone like Tim Hanke,
everybody knows that.

_
Timothy Hanke is a USCF board member advocating
major changes. It is appropriate to subject his
ideas and attitudes to scrutiny.


Lance Smith now writes (2003-09-23 07:35:24 PST):

Here are the quotes:

"... I argued with Bobby (in vain) to set an
example for all time by granting absolutely
fair conditions to his challenger. Alas, the
Soviets twisted it to show that even one of
his closest aides was not on his side in this
dispute - neglecting to mention that MOST OF
THEIR CHAMPIONS ENJOYED A GREATER EDGE THAN
FISCHER WAS ASKING FOR!"--GM Larry Evans

The capitalization for emphasis, is mine.

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With regard to this, I would ask:

Is there any reason to doubt that Fischer
could have had (if he had wanted) the same
conditions that Spassky had in 1972,
Petrosian had in 1966 and 1969, and
Botvinnik had in 1963?

In case anyone is new to the discussion,
I would also add that Fischer wanted a
rule that would have required a challenger
to finish two or more points ahead of
Fischer in order to cause Fischer to lose
the title.

"Bobby Fischer had sent in a number of demands ... Some
of these were conceded ... But two demands were rejected.
... Numerous telegrams had been sent to the Congress by
Fischer via his spokesman, Fred Cramer. The last one said
that, in the light of FIDE's decisions, he was resigning his
FIDE world-championship title. ... Another attempt was
made to bring the FIDE and Fischer into complete accord,
when Colonel Edmondson (U.S. Chess Federation) asked
for the summoning of an extraordinary meeting of the FIDE
Congress. There being a sufficient number of countries in
agreement, it duly assembled at Bergen-aan-Zee in the
Netherlands from 18 to 20 March, 1975. It was an
extraordinary congress in every sense of the word, and
eventually, after much heated discussion, one of Fischer's
demands was conceded: the match was to have a limitless
number of games. But Fischer's other demand - that a
draw be declared when the situation reached nine to nine
- was rejected by a majority of three. Fischer's words on
hearing this were, 'It's all over then.' No match took place.
Fischer ignored the request to say by 2 April whether or not
he would play, and Karpov became the new world champion"
- Golombek (1976)

Incidentally, in 1978, 1981, and 1984, FIDE did
decide to hold world championships where there
was "a limitless number of games", but there
was no rule that required the challenger to
finish two or more points ahead of the champion
in order to cause the champion to lose the title.
On the other hand, there WAS the rematch rule
that would have required a new champion to
play another championship match with the defeated
champion after one year.

Does GM Evans currently feel that he made a
mistake with his 1975 statements?

"Fischer refused to negotiate or compromise and his
stubbornness is what killed the match - nothing or nobody
else." - GM Evans (1975)

"Karpov deserves to be world champion" - GM Evans (1975)