Dear Nick,

Heil Dubya!

I'm not sure which side -- if any -- to take in this thread.

When I was in Galway and trying to learn IRISH, I was corrected by several
persons who spoke the language. What I gathered from them was that the
language was IRISH, when one spoke English and Gaelic when one spoke IRISH.

At the moment, I prefer "Aotearoa", because the indigenous population seems to
prefer the name in the liberation literature I have come across, because "New
Zealand" is an imposition of the imperialists AND because it is important, in
my mind, to let the WORLD know that there IS an Aotearoa, just as there is a
Zimbabwe (rather than "Rhodesia"). On the other hand, I have been corrected by
South Africans, with who I am close, who have told me that "Azania" is, in a
sense, anti-South African.

I HAVE discussed politics at some length with two Chinese rather well known in
the chess world, but the question of "Zhongguo" (new to me now) never has
arisen.

I have NO close contact with Hungarians, living in Hungary, but, personally
prefer "Magyar", simply because it is NATIVE. I have never had occasion to
discuss the matter with anyone from Hungary, although I know the Polgar family
CASUALLY. (All my dealings with members of that family have been on a chess
level or an casual social level. We never have discussed anything political.)

(Miriling) wrote in message
...
On 24 September 2003 (Larry Tapper) wrote in
Message-id:
'Magyar' is *a* correct word for the language, but the editors of the
Mobile paper made the right choice: it would have been pretentious
(and also obscure to many readers) to use 'Magyar' instead of
'Hungarian'.

Tapper is correct. It is standard practice for newspapers to use the more
common, i.e. less obscure, word in identifying languages....

And that may be true from Aotearoa (New Zealand) to Zhongguo (China). :-)

'We have lost the faculty of giving lovely names to things.
Names are everything.'
--Oscar Wilde (The Picture of Dorian Gray)

--Nick

Heute Uhmuhrikkka, Afghanistan und Irak. Morgen die ganze Welt!

Uhmurikkka, Uhmuhrikkka uber Alles!

(Was 11 September 2001 Kristalnacht or the date of the Reichstag fire?)

Fraternally,

Jerry Bibuld
gens una sumus