(Wlodzimierz Holsztynski) wrote (about the Palestinians):
(snipped)
Now the so-called militants and martyrs are murderers always ready to
murder people, including children, in kindergartens, synagogs, restarants,
public transportation buses, supermarkets.
Just give them a chance and they will murder.

So would Wlodzimierz Holsztynski believe that the Palestinians have an
inevitable natural predisposition to murder because they enjoy it?

Here's an article, 'I would have done the same', by Yitzhak Frankenthal
for 'The Guardian' (7 August 2002). Yitzhak Frankenthal's son, Arik, a
soldier in the Israel Defence Force, was killed on 7 July 1994 by Hamas.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/st...770326,00.html

"The worst in my mind is not what has already happened but what I am sure
one day will. And it will--because the political and military leadership
(of Israel) does not even have the most basic integrity to say: 'we are sorry'.
We (Israelis) lost sight of our ethics long before the suicide bombings.
....
Had I been born into the political and ethical chaos that is the
Palestinians' daily reality, I would certainly have tried to kill and hurt the
occupier (Israel); had I not, I would have betrayed my essence as a free man.
Let all of the self-righteous who speak of ruthless Palestinian murderers take
a hard look into the mirror and ask themselves what they would have done had
they been the ones living under (Israeli) occupation. *I can say for myself
that I, Yitzhak Frankenthal, would undoubtedly have become a freedom fighter
and would have killed as many on the other side as I possibly could.*
It is this depraved hypocrisy that pushes the Palestinians to fight us
relentlessly--our (Israel's) double standard that allows us to boast the
highest military ethics while the same military slays innocent children.
This lack of ethics is bound to corrupt us.

My son Arik was murdered when he was a soldier by Palestinian fighters who
believed in the ethical basis of their struggle against the occupation.
*My son Arik was not murdered because he was Jewish but because he is part
of the nation that occupies the territory of another.* I know these are
concepts that are unpalatable, but I must voice them loud and clear, because
they come from my heart--the heart of a father whose son did not get to live
because his people were blinded with power.

*As much as I would like to do so, I cannot say that the Palestinians are to
blame for my son's death. That would be the easy way out, but it is we,
Israelis, who are to blame because of the occupation.* Anyone who refuses
to heed this awful truth will eventually lead to our destruction.

The Palestinians cannot drive us away--they have long acknowledged our
existence. They have been ready to make peace with us; it is we who are
unwilling to make peace with them. It is we who insist on maintaining our
control over them; it is we who escalate the situation in the region and feed
the cycle of bloodshed. I regret to say it, but the blame is entirely ours.

I do not mean to absolve the Palestinians and by no means justify attacks
against Israeli civilians. No attacks against civilians can be condoned.
But as an occupation force it is we (Israelis) who trample over human dignity,
it is we who crush the liberty of Palestinians and it is we who push an
entire nation to crazy acts of despair."

--Yitzhak Frankenthal (27 July 2002, from his speech in Jerusalem)

Speaking from his heart and his tragic experience, Yitzhak Frankenthal has
given an eloquent response to the rhetoric of Wlodzimierz Holsztynski.

(snipped more nonsense by Wlodzimierz Holsztynski)

Based on his many posts written here in his intended support of Israel,
Wlodzimierz Holsztynski evidently worships the state of Israel and prefers
to deny any facts (even when they have been widely accepted by well-educated
Israelis) that could seem unfavourable toward Israel and its policies against
the Palestinians.

"Such denials are the product of political fanaticism, not of serious
investigation, and are not susceptible to rational argument."
--Richard Evans (In Hitler's Shadow, p. 143, commenting on another
kind of flagrant denial of historical facts)

"For example, certain lives had media value while others are expendable.
The killing of those of 'us' counts as a crime; the rest are unpeople."
--John Pilger (The New Rulers of the World, p. 137)

With regard to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict (which has had many civilian
casualties on each side, but most of them have been Palestinian), it does not
seem too hard to tell who Wlodzimierz Holsztynski perceives as among 'us' and
who he perceives as 'unpeople'.

--Nick