Does George John Really Exist?

I continue to be flabbergasted by the statements written about George
John by people who could not possibly know whether what they are
writing is true or not. For example, Bruce Leverett wrote that George
John is "a smart guy".

How does Bruce Leverett know this? Interesting coincidence: It so
happens that George John is rated exactly 1001 points lower than Bruce
Leverett. It seems surprising that anyone would write that anyone
rated one thousand points lower than himself is a smart guy. If that
is true, then how much lower would he have to be to be a stupid guy?

This led me to wonder how much do we actually know about George John .
What better place to go to than his own website:

http://georgejohn.bcentralhost.com/U...hessResume.htm

Take a close look. While his resume may seem impressive, it provides
no VERIFIABLE information about himself outside of chess. For example,
it does not state when and where he was born, where he went to high
school, what specific jobs he has held and where his specific
employment is today.

It does not provide his home address, whether he is married or single
or any of the other information one would expect to find in a resume.

It states that he has "25+ years in software development and
information technology" but does not state the name of the company
where he worked to gain this experience.

It does give a list of VOLUNTEER positions he has held. For example,
it says that he was volunteer of the month for Crisis Hotline, a
United Way Agency. While this may be a noble deed, I doubt that it can
be verified because few organizations keep records of their
volunteers.

I know what you are thinking. You are thinking that you know that
George John exists because you met the man, he attended a meeting of
this or that, and you are sure that you were not looking at a ghost.

However, how do you know that the man you met is really named George
John. Have you ever seen his photo ID? How do you know that John is
not his middle name rather than his last name?

By the way, we have a really strong chess player named Robert James. I
mean this guy is really good. However, that is another story.

Somebody once told me that the real name is not George John but rather
George St. John. Therefore, I just did an Internet search for George
St. John and came up with zero, just as I have come up with nothing
outside of chess about George John.

Now, look at the other candidates. We know enough about all of them to
know that they are all real people using their real names, not fake
personalities using fake names. George John is the only one whose
existence cannot be independently verified.

We know that Stan Booz has run a background check on me and has
verified that I am who I say that I am. I would like to know if Stan
Booz has ever run a background check on George John. I note that
recently Stan Booz started making sarcastic remarks and veiled attacks
on George John. Does Stan know something the rest of us do not know
yet?

I believe that the name George John is likely a pseudonym or at least
that John is not his last name. I do not believe that he will be
elected but I believe that if he is elected he should be required to
prove that his real name is George John and, if his real name is not
George John, he should not be allowed to take office on the USCF
Executive Board.

By the way, on the subject of background checks, did anybody ever do a
background check on George DeFeis and Frank Niro, our last two
executive directors? I consider it possible that one or both of them
pumped up their qualifications for office, to our great detriment.

Sam Sloan

I needed a good laugh today, and this post delivered! -smile-

To save Stan some needlessly wasted time -grin-, my name is the one
given to me by my parents.

I am currently employed (since June, 2003) as a Senior Software
Engineer by a division of a publicly held corporation (energy business)
that had revenue in excess of $400,000,000 in 2004.

To fill in few more details, my father, wife, son, and I are all
current USCF members (easy to verify using MSA). One can even find a
tournament on MSA where my father, son, and I all played in the same
section. That was back in 1996. I have jokingly referred to our
performance in that event as "The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly" -big
grin-

Best regards,

George John

"Sam Sloan" However, how do you know that the man you met is really named
George John. Have you ever seen his photo ID?

His real name is John Paul George Ringo.

To help people remember my confusing name, I tell them I'm the two dead
beatles. The other trick with my name is to remember alphabetical
order, G comes before J (a common error is people think I'm John
George) .

Software developers, here's a (simple?) challenge for you. Which
programming language can you write my first name with using only
relational and logical operators (-hint- ignore the periods -hint
two- = || = ).

Best regards,

George

posted to rec.pets.herp and alt.fan.howard-stern on 6/16

In article .com,
"George John" wrote:

I tell them I'm the two dead beatles.

Silversneak didn't make that up himself?

--
Frisco Del Rosario
A First Book of Morphy -- http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1412039061

On 15 Jun 2005 21:50:27 -0700, "George John"
wrote:

I needed a good laugh today, and this post delivered! -smile-

To save Stan some needlessly wasted time -grin-, my name is the one
given to me by my parents.

I am currently employed (since June, 2003) as a Senior Software
Engineer by a division of a publicly held corporation (energy business)
that had revenue in excess of $400,000,000 in 2004.

To fill in few more details, my father, wife, son, and I are all
current USCF members (easy to verify using MSA). One can even find a
tournament on MSA where my father, son, and I all played in the same
section. That was back in 1996. I have jokingly referred to our
performance in that event as "The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly" -big
grin-

Best regards,

George John

Although George John has posted three times to this thread, he still
has failed and refused to provide any VERIFIABLE evidence that he
exists or that his real name is George John.

For example, he refers us to the Texas Chess Association website, but
that turns out to be his own website.

The address for George John on that website is a PO Box, P.O. Box
710750 Houston, TX

He claims to be employed as "a Senior Software Engineer by a division
of a publicly held corporation" but he does but does not give the name
of the company. What is the big secret? Is he ashamed of them, or are
they ashamed of him?

Six years ago I was told by a chess official that his real name was
not George John, but was something similar. The official did not know
exactly what his real name was.

He states that the MSA shows that he, his wife and a child all played
in a tournament together.

I have found just one possible tournament that fits. That is the 1996
Texas State Championship - Reserve Section:

http://www.uschess.org/msa/XtblMain....720.2-12682196

In that tournament there were players named George C. John and George
L. John MD.

I imagine that George L. John MD must be his wife and her maiden name
initial is L.

http://www.uschess.org/msa/MbrDtlMain.php?12682196

However, I have checked the listings for all doctors in the Houston
area and there is no doctor listed with the name of George L. John or
anything similar.

I believe that if George C. John wins this election, he should not be
seated on the board unless he can produce photo ID proving that his
name really is George C. John.

You ask: What difference does it make? We know that there is a person
who goes by the name of George John. We all have met him. What
difference does it make what his name really is?

The difference is that we had an Executive Director named George
DeFeis who told us that he had a Master's Degree in Business
Administration from Bernard Baruch School of Finance.

We have never been able to verify that he had that degree and, by the
way, he lost the USCF one million dollars.

Our next Executive Director was Frank Niro who told us that he had
been named Hospital Administrator of the Year by some organization.

I have not been able to find out the name of the hospital or of the
organization.

Beatriz Marinello, our great leader, tells us that she is a US Citizen
and has a degree in accounting.

She has not told us what school awarded her this degree. I have been
able to find out that Beatriz Marinello is not registered to vote and
most new citizens are registered to vote on the same say that they
become citizens, so I would like to see some proof of this.

By the way, my wife has an accounting degree too. My wife's degree is
from La Guardia Community College. I have it right here on my desk
and I can show it to you. Nevertheless, I do not consider my wife to
be qualified to sit on the USCF Board.

Unless George John can show us some proof that he exists, anything at
all, like the name of the high school he attended or the name of some
kid who knew him in fifth grade or a birth certificate or driver's
license or anything at all, I do not believe that he should be allowed
to sit on the USCF Board.

Sam Sloan

Sam Sloan wrote:
SNIP

Unless George John can show us some proof that he exists, anything at
all, like the name of the high school he attended or the name of some
kid who knew him in fifth grade or a birth certificate or driver's
license or anything at all, I do not believe that he should be allowed
to sit on the USCF Board.

Sam Sloan

I was almost -- ALMOST -- feeling a little bit of sympathy for Sloan
after his courageous trek to Chicago to play Bill (and winning) and
Bill's humble remarks afterwards. However, after reading this post my
long-held belief that Sloan is a complete and total idiot has been
reaffirmed.

God you're stupid, Sloan.

MN

"Sam Sloan" By the way, my wife has an accounting degree too. My wife's
degree is from La Guardia Community College.

Where do you live? Someone keeps posting that you are in California? What is
your address? Where did you graduate from College? Where do you work? How do
we know what your name is?

Sam Sloan wrote:

[SNIP]

Although George John has posted three times to this thread, he still
has failed and refused to provide any VERIFIABLE evidence that he
exists or that his real name is George John.

The laughs continue. -smile-

One wonders is Sam Sloan has heard about identity theft?

For example, he refers us to the Texas Chess Association website, but
that turns out to be his own website.

I am the TCA's Webmaster and use space on my one of my ISP accounts for
the TCA Website. I have been helping with the TCA's Website on and off
(mostly on) since 1996. See:
http://georgejohn.bcentralhost.com/U...John/Selby.htm


He claims to be employed as "a Senior Software Engineer by a division
of a publicly held corporation" but he does but does not give the name
of the company. What is the big secret? Is he ashamed of them, or are
they ashamed of him?

If anyone would like to know the name of the company, please write to
me by private e-mail at . I just completed two years
of employment with this company, and have received two excellent annual
performance reviews. I am most certainly NOT ashamed of my company.
Given the price of oil is around $60 a barrel, work in the O&G industry
is relatively good these days.

Six years ago I was told by a chess official that his real name was
not George John, but was something similar. The official did not know
exactly what his real name was.

That chess official was mistaken, or Sam Sloan's recollection is
mistaken.


He states that the MSA shows that he, his wife and a child all played
in a tournament together.

I did NOT state this. Sam Sloan needs to reread what I did say.

[SNIP]


I believe that if George C. John wins this election, he should not be
seated on the board unless he can produce photo ID proving that his
name really is George C. John.

I have a TX drivers license with my name and photo on it. No worries
here.

[SNIP]

Best regards,

George John