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Does George John Really Exist?



 
 
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Old June 16th 05, 04:59 AM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc,alt.chess,misc.legal
Sam Sloan
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Does George John Really Exist?

I continue to be flabbergasted by the statements written about George
John by people who could not possibly know whether what they are
writing is true or not. For example, Bruce Leverett wrote that George
John is "a smart guy".

How does Bruce Leverett know this? Interesting coincidence: It so
happens that George John is rated exactly 1001 points lower than Bruce
Leverett. It seems surprising that anyone would write that anyone
rated one thousand points lower than himself is a smart guy. If that
is true, then how much lower would he have to be to be a stupid guy?

This led me to wonder how much do we actually know about George John .
What better place to go to than his own website:

http://georgejohn.bcentralhost.com/U...hessResume.htm

Take a close look. While his resume may seem impressive, it provides
no VERIFIABLE information about himself outside of chess. For example,
it does not state when and where he was born, where he went to high
school, what specific jobs he has held and where his specific
employment is today.

It does not provide his home address, whether he is married or single
or any of the other information one would expect to find in a resume.

It states that he has "25+ years in software development and
information technology" but does not state the name of the company
where he worked to gain this experience.

It does give a list of VOLUNTEER positions he has held. For example,
it says that he was volunteer of the month for Crisis Hotline, a
United Way Agency. While this may be a noble deed, I doubt that it can
be verified because few organizations keep records of their
volunteers.

I know what you are thinking. You are thinking that you know that
George John exists because you met the man, he attended a meeting of
this or that, and you are sure that you were not looking at a ghost.

However, how do you know that the man you met is really named George
John. Have you ever seen his photo ID? How do you know that John is
not his middle name rather than his last name?

By the way, we have a really strong chess player named Robert James. I
mean this guy is really good. However, that is another story.

Somebody once told me that the real name is not George John but rather
George St. John. Therefore, I just did an Internet search for George
St. John and came up with zero, just as I have come up with nothing
outside of chess about George John.

Now, look at the other candidates. We know enough about all of them to
know that they are all real people using their real names, not fake
personalities using fake names. George John is the only one whose
existence cannot be independently verified.

We know that Stan Booz has run a background check on me and has
verified that I am who I say that I am. I would like to know if Stan
Booz has ever run a background check on George John. I note that
recently Stan Booz started making sarcastic remarks and veiled attacks
on George John. Does Stan know something the rest of us do not know
yet?

I believe that the name George John is likely a pseudonym or at least
that John is not his last name. I do not believe that he will be
elected but I believe that if he is elected he should be required to
prove that his real name is George John and, if his real name is not
George John, he should not be allowed to take office on the USCF
Executive Board.

By the way, on the subject of background checks, did anybody ever do a
background check on George DeFeis and Frank Niro, our last two
executive directors? I consider it possible that one or both of them
pumped up their qualifications for office, to our great detriment.

Sam Sloan

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Old June 16th 05, 06:37 AM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc,alt.chess,misc.legal
Cranky Chess
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snip of the usual Sloan bovine effluvia

Gee, I couldn't think of any possible reasons that someone in this day
and age might want to restrict the personal information they put on the
internet.

What would it take to make you happy Swinging Sammy? Does Mr. John
have to make available his mother's maiden name, social security number
and credit card numbers to satisfy your curiosity?

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Old June 16th 05, 11:05 AM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc,alt.chess,misc.legal
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Sam Sloan wrote:
Does George John Really Exist?

I continue to be flabbergasted by the statements written about George
John by people who could not possibly know whether what they are
writing is true or not.


I've met George John at the 2002 US Open, and he looks like his photo
on the Internet. This was in the company of James Eade, who also looked
like his photo. (Note to Phil Innes and Larry Parr - this was the only
time I'd met Mr. Eade.) Mr. and Mrs. Barry were also with him, and they
confirmed it was indeed George John.

If that isn't enough proof, I was published in Texas Knights earlier
this year, and my emails from the editor of the magazine cc'd George
John's email address.

Keep up that AntiStratfordian thinking, Scammy. The Trust and I knew it
would lead to madness.

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Old June 16th 05, 02:19 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc,alt.chess,misc.legal
Jürgen R.
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On 16 Jun 2005 03:05:20 -0700, "The Historian"
wrote:



Sam Sloan wrote:
Does George John Really Exist?

I continue to be flabbergasted by the statements written about George
John by people who could not possibly know whether what they are
writing is true or not.


I've met George John at the 2002 US Open, and he looks like his photo
on the Internet. This was in the company of James Eade, who also looked
like his photo. (Note to Phil Innes and Larry Parr - this was the only
time I'd met Mr. Eade.) Mr. and Mrs. Barry were also with him, and they
confirmed it was indeed George John.

If that isn't enough proof,


Since I also look like my photo, therefore, by your logic, I must be
George John.

I was published in Texas Knights earlier
this year, and my emails from the editor of the magazine cc'd George
John's email address.

Keep up that AntiStratfordian thinking, Scammy. The Trust and I knew it
would lead to madness.


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Old June 16th 05, 03:24 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc,alt.chess,misc.legal
Sam Sloan
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On 15 Jun 2005 22:37:19 -0700, "Cranky Chess"
wrote:

snip of the usual Sloan bovine effluvia

Gee, I couldn't think of any possible reasons that someone in this day
and age might want to restrict the personal information they put on the
internet.

What would it take to make you happy Swinging Sammy? Does Mr. John
have to make available his mother's maiden name, social security number
and credit card numbers to satisfy your curiosity?

A simple address and telephone number would help.

Do not you find it remarkable that George John is running for election
and yet he does not even provide a telephone number where he can be
reached?

Sam Sloan
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Old June 16th 05, 03:51 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc,alt.chess,misc.legal
Liam Too
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Sam Sloan wrote:
A simple address and telephone number would help.


Here, go to:

http://www.georgejohn.bcentralhost.com/tca/tcaoffre.htm

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Old June 16th 05, 03:58 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc,alt.chess
George John
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Texas Chess Association officer contact information can be found on the
Texas Chess Association Website, http://www.texaschess.org

Best regards,

George John
TCA President

 




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