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Damiano's Defense Declined
Opponents are becoming afraid of my Damiano's Defense. I played it twice in the Viking 4 County Open in Hackettstown NJ yesterday and both of my opponents declined to take the pawn. I won the first game easily. In the second game I played it against a rated master. I achieved a winning position and I was thinking that I was going to score my first victory over a master with the Damiano's Defense. However, he came up with a fantastic queen sacrifice followed by a bishop sacrifice which worked because my pieces happened to be in exactly the right spot for a knight fork winning the game. I cannot take any credit away from my opponent. He came up with something really good. This should go in one of those White to play and win problem collections. After the game, I asked him why he did not take the pawn when I played Damianos Defense. He said that he has overheard me mention Damianos Defense in one of my conversations so he knew that I knew what I was doing. Also, I had won my previous round game with Damianos Defense. He said that he wanted to win the game, so he decided that he has better not take that pawn. He also said that he has see my picture in Chess Life magazine but he had thought that I was just a chess politico. He had not realized that I actually play the game too! Here is the game: The first point of the game is that after 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 f6 3. Nc3 Bc5 he can no longer take the pawn because when he checks with the queen I have the f8 square for my king. So, if he wants to take the pawn he must do it on move three. Otherwise, the opportunity will be lost forever. Because of his passive play, I quickly built up an overwhelming position and won a pawn. I would appreciate it if somebody could run this game through Fritz because I believe that I had several wins. I felt that my 35. . . . d4 was a good move because it set up knight forks. One of the spectators, a master, felt that that was the losing move however. For sure, if he had not sacrificed his queen he had a bad position, possibly losing, because of 38. Kg2 Ne5+ 39. Kh2 Bxb7. Although material is equal, my threats of knight forks and discovered checks against his exposed king gives me the advantage. During the game, I though he could win with a rook sacrifice with 36. Rxb5. However, after the game he pointed out that he had seen that and instead I win by responding with a queen sacrifice with 36. Rxb5 Qxb5 !! Sam Sloan [Event "Viking 4 County Open"] [Site "Hackettstown NJ"] [Date "2005.08.20"] [Round "04"] [White "West, James R."] [Black "Sloan, Sam"] [Result "1-0"] [ECO "C40"] [WhiteElo "2206"] [BlackElo "1941"] 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 f6 3.Nc3 Bc5 4.Bc4 Ne7 5.d3 c6 6.a4 d5 7.Bb3 Bg4 8.h3 Bh5 9.Qe2 Qd6 10.a5 Nd7 11.Na4 Bb4+ 12.Bd2 b5 13.axb6 axb6 14.g4 Bg6 15.c3 Ba5 16.exd5 cxd5 17.Bc2 b5 18.Nc5 Qxc5 19.b4 Qc7 20.O-O O-O 21.bxa5 Rxa5 22.Rxa5 Qxa5 23.c4 Qc7 24.Bb4 Re8 25.cxb5 Qb6 26.Bxe7 Rxe7 27.Rb1 Nc5 28.Nh4 Be8 29.d4 Ne6 30.Nf5 Rb7 31.dxe5 Bxb5 32.Qd2 Qc5 33.exf6 gxf6 34.Bd3 Ng5 35.Qe3 d4 36.Qg3 Bc6 37.Rxb7 Nf3+ 38.Qxf3 (38. Kg2 Ne5+ 39. Kh2 Bxb7) 38...Bxf3 39.Bc4+ {Black resigns because of Qxc4 40. Rb8+ Kf7 41. Nd6# or 39. .... Kf8 40. Rb8+ Qc8 41. Qxc8#) 1-0 |
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The Damiano is a forced win for White. 3. Nxe5! wins in every variation. The fact that neither player took the pawn doesn't mean anything. I'll take it from you and win 3.5 out of 5 at G/20. Bet you $50. Who was the other player? I missed the tournament and thereby lost the title of Sussex County Chess Champion, which I've held since the last 4 County event 6 years ago. I was the only Sussex County resident to enter, by the way. "Sam Sloan" wrote in message ... Damiano's Defense Declined Opponents are becoming afraid of my Damiano's Defense. I played it twice in the Viking 4 County Open in Hackettstown NJ yesterday and both of my opponents declined to take the pawn. I won the first game easily. In the second game I played it against a rated master. I achieved a winning position and I was thinking that I was going to score my first victory over a master with the Damiano's Defense. However, he came up with a fantastic queen sacrifice followed by a bishop sacrifice which worked because my pieces happened to be in exactly the right spot for a knight fork winning the game. I cannot take any credit away from my opponent. He came up with something really good. This should go in one of those White to play and win problem collections. After the game, I asked him why he did not take the pawn when I played Damianos Defense. He said that he has overheard me mention Damianos Defense in one of my conversations so he knew that I knew what I was doing. Also, I had won my previous round game with Damianos Defense. He said that he wanted to win the game, so he decided that he has better not take that pawn. He also said that he has see my picture in Chess Life magazine but he had thought that I was just a chess politico. He had not realized that I actually play the game too! Here is the game: The first point of the game is that after 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 f6 3. Nc3 Bc5 he can no longer take the pawn because when he checks with the queen I have the f8 square for my king. So, if he wants to take the pawn he must do it on move three. Otherwise, the opportunity will be lost forever. Because of his passive play, I quickly built up an overwhelming position and won a pawn. I would appreciate it if somebody could run this game through Fritz because I believe that I had several wins. I felt that my 35. . . . d4 was a good move because it set up knight forks. One of the spectators, a master, felt that that was the losing move however. For sure, if he had not sacrificed his queen he had a bad position, possibly losing, because of 38. Kg2 Ne5+ 39. Kh2 Bxb7. Although material is equal, my threats of knight forks and discovered checks against his exposed king gives me the advantage. During the game, I though he could win with a rook sacrifice with 36. Rxb5. However, after the game he pointed out that he had seen that and instead I win by responding with a queen sacrifice with 36. Rxb5 Qxb5 !! Sam Sloan [Event "Viking 4 County Open"] [Site "Hackettstown NJ"] [Date "2005.08.20"] [Round "04"] [White "West, James R."] [Black "Sloan, Sam"] [Result "1-0"] [ECO "C40"] [WhiteElo "2206"] [BlackElo "1941"] 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 f6 3.Nc3 Bc5 4.Bc4 Ne7 5.d3 c6 6.a4 d5 7.Bb3 Bg4 8.h3 Bh5 9.Qe2 Qd6 10.a5 Nd7 11.Na4 Bb4+ 12.Bd2 b5 13.axb6 axb6 14.g4 Bg6 15.c3 Ba5 16.exd5 cxd5 17.Bc2 b5 18.Nc5 Qxc5 19.b4 Qc7 20.O-O O-O 21.bxa5 Rxa5 22.Rxa5 Qxa5 23.c4 Qc7 24.Bb4 Re8 25.cxb5 Qb6 26.Bxe7 Rxe7 27.Rb1 Nc5 28.Nh4 Be8 29.d4 Ne6 30.Nf5 Rb7 31.dxe5 Bxb5 32.Qd2 Qc5 33.exf6 gxf6 34.Bd3 Ng5 35.Qe3 d4 36.Qg3 Bc6 37.Rxb7 Nf3+ 38.Qxf3 (38. Kg2 Ne5+ 39. Kh2 Bxb7) 38...Bxf3 39.Bc4+ {Black resigns because of Qxc4 40. Rb8+ Kf7 41. Nd6# or 39. ... Kf8 40. Rb8+ Qc8 41. Qxc8#) 1-0 |
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The Damiano is a forced win for White. 3. Nxe5! wins in every
variation. I'd take that bet with the Black pieces. If you made me play 3...fxe5, it'd be a different story. Analysis is ChessBase, except for analysis of 9...Qf5 (TN), which is me noodling around with Fritz. 9...Qe6 has been played more than once, but IMO it's less logical. Chigorin's 9...Qg6? just loses to 10.Ne5! [Event "St Petersburg m"] [Site "St Petersburg"] [Date "1897.??.??"] [Round "13"] [White "Schiffers, Emanuel Stepanovich"] [Black "Chigorin, Mikhail"] [Result "1/2-1/2"] [ECO "C40"] [Annotator "ChessBase"] [PlyCount "68"] [EventDate "1897.??.??"] [Source "ChessBase"] [SourceDate "1998.11.10"] 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 f6 $2 3. Nxe5 (3. Bc4 $1) 3... Qe7 (3... fxe5 $2 4. Qh5+ $18) 4. Nf3 d5 5. d3 dxe4 6. dxe4 Qxe4+ 7. Be2 Nc6 8. O-O Bd7 9. Nc3 Qg6 $2 ({Brock } 9... Qf5 $1 10. Bd3 Qh5 $1 (10... Qa5 $6 11. Re1+ Nge7 12. Nd2 $1 O-O-O 13. Nc4 Qc5 (13... Qb4 14. a3) 14. Be3 $18) 11. Re1+ Nge7 {Brock}) 10. Ne5 Nxe5 11. Bh5 O-O-O 12. Bxg6 hxg6 13. Qe2 (13. Qe1 {Hierauf geht die 2 verloren, j}) 13... Bd6 14. Ne4 (14. Bf4 $1) 14... Nf3+ 15. gxf3 (15. Qxf3 Bxh2+ 16. Kh1 Bg3+ 17. Kg1 Bh2+ 18. Kh1 Bg3+) 15... Bxh2+ 16. Kg2 Bh3+ 17. Kh1 Be5 18. Kg1 Bh2+ 19. Kh1 Be5 20. Qe1 Bg4+ 21. Kg1 Bxf3 22. Ng3 Ne7 23. Qe3 Bc6 24. Qxa7 $2 b6 ( 24... Rh1+ $15 25. Nxh1 Bh2+ 26. Kxh2 Rh8+ 27. Kg3 Nf5+ 28. Kf4 Rh4# $2) 25. Be3 Nf5 (25... Rh1+ $3 26. Nxh1 Bh2+ 27. Kxh2 Rh8+ 28. Kg3 Nf5+ 29. Kf4 Rh4#) 26. f4 Nxg3 27. fxe5 Rh1+ 28. Kf2 Rh2+ 29. Kxg3 Rdh8 30. Qa6+ Kb8 31. Bxb6 Rg2+ 32. Kf4 Rh4+ 33. Ke3 Rh3+ 34. Kf4 (34. Kd4 Rd2+ (34... Rh4+ 35. Kc3 Rg3+ 36. Qd3 Rxd3+ 37. Kxd3 cxb6 38. exf6 gxf6 39. Rxf6) 35. Qd3 Rdxd3+ 36. cxd3 cxb6 37. exf6 gxf6 38. Rxf6 {#}) 34... Rh4+ (34... Rh4+ 35. Ke3 Rh3+ 36. Kd4 Rd2+ 37. Qd3 fxe5+ 38. Kxe5 Rhxd3 39. cxd3 cxb6) 1/2-1/2 |
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On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 01:53:08 -0400, "Angelo DePalma"
wrote: The Damiano is a forced win for White. 3. Nxe5! wins in every variation. The fact that neither player took the pawn doesn't mean anything. I'll take it from you and win 3.5 out of 5 at G/20. Bet you $50. OK. I will take that bet. As I understand it, all I have to do is score 2 out of 5 to win the match. Correct? Let's make it $100. Where will we play this match? I would prefer game in 30 giving us time to write down the moves so that we can publish them here. Who was the other player? The other player was very weak, the game not worth posting or looking at. The only thing of note is that after I played 2. .... f6 he commented, "That is the worst move on the board", but then he did not take the pawn. Anyway here is the game, but please do not bother to play it over. Sam Sloan [Event "Viking 4 County Open"] [Site "Hackettstown NJ"] [Date "2005.08.20"] [Round "03"] [White "Mitchell, Calvin"] [Black "Sloan, Sam"] [Result "0-1"] [ECO "C40"] 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 f6 3.d3 Nc6 4.Be2 Bc5 5.c3 d5 6.O-O Nge7 7.b4 Bb6 8.a4 a6 9.Na3 Be6 10.Bb2 Qd7 11.exd5 Nxd5 12.b5 axb5 13.axb5 Nce7 14.c4 Nf4 15.Bxe5 fxe5 16.Nxe5 Qd6 17.Nf3 Rxa3 18.Rxa3 Qxa3 19.Qd2 O-O 20.Re1 Ba5 21.Qe3 Bxe1 22.Nxe1 Qa1 23.Kf1 Neg6 24.Bf3 Bf5 25.Bd5+ Nxd5 26.cxd5 Bd7 27.f3 Re8 28.Qd2 Bxb5 29.Kf2 Qd4+ 30.Kg3 Qh4# 0-1 |
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Sam Sloan ha escrito:
On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 01:53:08 -0400, "Angelo DePalma" wrote: The Damiano is a forced win for White. 3. Nxe5! wins in every variation. The fact that neither player took the pawn doesn't mean anything. I'll take it from you and win 3.5 out of 5 at G/20. Bet you $50. OK. I will take that bet. As I understand it, all I have to do is score 2 out of 5 to win the match. Correct? Let's make it $100. Where will we play this match? I would prefer game in 30 giving us time to write down the moves so that we can publish them here. ....why noy 200? please Sam, be serious and do not waste your money in challenges like this one. AT |
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Haha, Calvin Mitchell. No surprise he didn't take the pawn.
I'll gladly make it $100 provided you take on e5 at move 3. In other words, I want to play from this position: 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 f6 3.Nxe5 fe5. We can play at Ken's if you like. I know it's far for you. I live about 18 miles north of him. If you can suggest somewhere halfway we can do that. Also, let's make it G/29 or make it unrated. Deal? "Sam Sloan" wrote in message ... On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 01:53:08 -0400, "Angelo DePalma" wrote: The Damiano is a forced win for White. 3. Nxe5! wins in every variation. The fact that neither player took the pawn doesn't mean anything. I'll take it from you and win 3.5 out of 5 at G/20. Bet you $50. OK. I will take that bet. As I understand it, all I have to do is score 2 out of 5 to win the match. Correct? Let's make it $100. Where will we play this match? I would prefer game in 30 giving us time to write down the moves so that we can publish them here. Who was the other player? The other player was very weak, the game not worth posting or looking at. The only thing of note is that after I played 2. .... f6 he commented, "That is the worst move on the board", but then he did not take the pawn. Anyway here is the game, but please do not bother to play it over. Sam Sloan [Event "Viking 4 County Open"] [Site "Hackettstown NJ"] [Date "2005.08.20"] [Round "03"] [White "Mitchell, Calvin"] [Black "Sloan, Sam"] [Result "0-1"] [ECO "C40"] 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 f6 3.d3 Nc6 4.Be2 Bc5 5.c3 d5 6.O-O Nge7 7.b4 Bb6 8.a4 a6 9.Na3 Be6 10.Bb2 Qd7 11.exd5 Nxd5 12.b5 axb5 13.axb5 Nce7 14.c4 Nf4 15.Bxe5 fxe5 16.Nxe5 Qd6 17.Nf3 Rxa3 18.Rxa3 Qxa3 19.Qd2 O-O 20.Re1 Ba5 21.Qe3 Bxe1 22.Nxe1 Qa1 23.Kf1 Neg6 24.Bf3 Bf5 25.Bd5+ Nxd5 26.cxd5 Bd7 27.f3 Re8 28.Qd2 Bxb5 29.Kf2 Qd4+ 30.Kg3 Qh4# 0-1 |
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Por favor, Tony, no reality check until I have Sam's $100 in my pocket.
Angelo wrote in message oups.com... Hello again Sam, I may waste my time because I have experience knowing how you do not take seriously correct analysis sent for another people to you, but I will try.... And I can not understand why you do not waste a little amount of time checking your games and analysis with some engine (there are some for free who work well) and you waste large amounts of time writing about your games and analysis with many mistakes of making strange challenges to some masters like the one you made to Mr Randy Bauer recently. En/na ha escrit: Damiano's Defense Declined Opponents are becoming afraid of my Damiano's Defense. (...) In the second game I played it against a rated master. I achieved a winning position and I was thinking that I was going to score my first victory over a master with the Damiano's Defense. (...) After the game, I asked him why he did not take the pawn when I played Damianos Defense. He said that he has overheard me mention Damianos Defense in one of my conversations so he knew that I knew what I was doing. Also, I had won my previous round game with Damianos Defense. He said that he wanted to win the game, so he decided that he has better not take that pawn. He also said that he has see my picture in Chess Life magazine but he had thought that I was just a chess politico. He had not realized that I actually play the game too! I have not see that photo but I have read you "analysis" of Damiano ad the refutations people has sent to you here and in RGCA. You did not improve never that refutations sending the same wrong line several times. Maybe if that master have read all the analysis publised here He would have win without thinking any move. In that case I think it's more the question He wanted to play from the begining and avoid susprises feeling superior that any fear of the opening. Sure that with another master He would have entered in main lines without fear. (...) Because of his passive play, I quickly built up an overwhelming position and won a pawn. I would appreciate it if somebody could run this game through Fritz because I believe that I had several wins. More than "passive play", He simply made a mistake 11.Na4? and after some inacuracies from both players in following moves white finally lost a pawn in move16. But after many many inacuracies and mistakes Black managed to convert a won position into a lost one. - 35.Qa5 is a forced win: for example: 35.Qa5! Nh3 36.Kh2! Qf2 37.Kh3 Qf3 38.Ng3 Qd3 39.Qa8 and wins - 35...d4 is a mistake (it was better to defend an inferior ending with 35...Qxe3) after 35...d4? white wins with 36.Qe2 main line being: 36.Qe2 Bc6 37.Qa2 d5 38.Qa8 Kf7 39.Rb7 Bb7 40.Qb7 Qb7 41 Nd6 and wins - Queen sacrifce was not best move neither, 37.Bc4 Qc4 38.Qb8 was an ending with advantage for white but 37.Rxb7? allowed Qc1! (the move you did not see) 38.Bf1 Nf3 and black has some advantage. Conclusion, white treatment of the opening lead to an unclear position but some mistakes conceded Black a won position in move 17. Later many mistakes from black leaded to a won position for white. The last moves annotated could be:35.Qe3?? d4?? 36.Qg3?? Bc6 37.Rxb7? Nf3+?? 38.Qxf3! Bxf3 39.Bc4+! 1-0 I hope this time you will answer to that analysis or simply you do not send more messages about Daminao before answering this one. Antonio Torrecillas FIDE Master (rated 2396) I felt that my 35. . . . d4 was a good move because it set up knight forks. One of the spectators, a master, felt that that was the losing move however. For sure, if he had not sacrificed his queen he had a bad position, possibly losing, because of 38. Kg2 Ne5+ 39. Kh2 Bxb7. Although material is equal, my threats of knight forks and discovered checks against his exposed king gives me the advantage. During the game, I though he could win with a rook sacrifice with 36. Rxb5. However, after the game he pointed out that he had seen that and instead I win by responding with a queen sacrifice with 36. Rxb5 Qxb5 !! Sam Sloan [Event "Viking 4 County Open"] [Site "Hackettstown NJ"] [Date "2005.08.20"] [Round "04"] [White "West, James R."] [Black "Sloan, Sam"] [Result "1-0"] [ECO "C40"] [WhiteElo "2206"] [BlackElo "1941"] 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 f6 3.Nc3 Bc5 4.Bc4 Ne7 5.d3 c6 6.a4 d5 7.Bb3 Bg4 8.h3 Bh5 9.Qe2 Qd6 10.a5 Nd7 11.Na4 Bb4+ 12.Bd2 b5 13.axb6 axb6 14.g4 Bg6 15.c3 Ba5 16.exd5 cxd5 17.Bc2 b5 18.Nc5 Qxc5 19.b4 Qc7 20.O-O O-O 21.bxa5 Rxa5 22.Rxa5 Qxa5 23.c4 Qc7 24.Bb4 Re8 25.cxb5 Qb6 26.Bxe7 Rxe7 27.Rb1 Nc5 28.Nh4 Be8 29.d4 Ne6 30.Nf5 Rb7 31.dxe5 Bxb5 32.Qd2 Qc5 33.exf6 gxf6 34.Bd3 Ng5 35.Qe3 d4 36.Qg3 Bc6 37.Rxb7 Nf3+ 38.Qxf3 (38. Kg2 Ne5+ 39. Kh2 Bxb7) 38...Bxf3 39.Bc4+ {Black resigns because of Qxc4 40. Rb8+ Kf7 41. Nd6# or 39. ... Kf8 40. Rb8+ Qc8 41. Qxc8#) 1-0 |
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