I'm a liar. Everyone knows that. If people **** me off, I write crap
about them. If you pay me, I'll write crap about anyone you want.

Sam Sloan

Chess One wrote:
"samsloan" wrote in message
oups.com...

Sam, thanks for the best laugh I've had all week.

Taylor,

Since you are the only person who claims to know Edward Winter
personally,

Wrongo Sam. Ray Keene wrote of Mr. Simpole who used to beat Winter easily
while simultaneously marking homework. I have also encountered him
elsewhere. He is not Taylor Kingston.

why don't you "correct" my biography by providing
information about him, such as his date and place of birth, so that we
can verify whether he is a real person or not?

You really invite people to take apart your work by writing such [funny! but
untrue] stuff.

Phil Innes

Wait just one cotten pickin' minute.

Are you saying that you, Phil Innes, have actually met Edward Winter?

And are you saying that he is the same person who always writes screeds
attacking Ray Keene?

Sam Sloan

samsloan wrote:
Taylor Kingston wrote:

I got a big kick out of two passages:

"Attention has focused on Taylor Kingston, a chess journalist in
Vermont. Kingston is about the same age that Winter appears to be.
Kingston is from the same part of England that Winter is believed to be
from." - Wow, I didn't know that Vermont (where I live now) and
San Diego, California (where I was born and lived until 1980) are part
of England.

"This puts Winter at almost exactly the same age as Taylor Kingston
(whose name may also be a pseudonym)." - Boy, that age similarity
is the clincher. Case closed! And I'm shocked to learn that for the
last 57 years I've been using a wrong name!

Sam, thanks for the best laugh I've had all week.

Taylor,

Since you are the only person who claims to know Edward Winter
personally, why don't you "correct" my biography by providing
information about him, such as his date and place of birth, so that we
can verify whether he is a real person or not?

Uh, Sam (if this is actually Sam Sloan and not some impostor), I have
never met Edward Winter. I have only exchanged e-mails with him. I am
unable to assist on the particulars you request.
Also, I am not "from England," except in the sense that some of my
ancestors were. In my entire life, I personally have spent a total of
about four days on English soil, in London, on a vacation in 1976. Saw
Buckingham Palace, the Tower and such. Never met Edward Winter.

Ahh, but some of us are _accurate_ morons....

wrote:
Ahh, but some of us are _accurate_ morons....

I'm a moroff!!!

wrote:
Ahh, but some of us are _accurate_ morons....

I'm a moroff!!!

I'm a moroff!!

I'm a moroff!!

I am truly shocked to learn that Louis Blair knows nothing about
chess. I had always assumed that in view of these frequent postings
where Blair posts quotes from other people, that he was a regular
reader of this group and had been following the discussions.

However, Blair has just posted something over on Wikipedia that
demonstrates that Blair knows nothing.

Here is what Blair wrote at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Howcheng :

Edward Winter biography

Once again, Wikipedia is being used to publicize an unverifiable
attack. In this case, the target is Edward Winter:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_G._Winter

Some sample ridiculous statements:

(1) "For the past more than 30 years, every time a new book by Keene
has come out or a new article by Keene has been published, Edward
Winter has written articles attacking it."
(2) "Kingston is from the same part of England that Winter is
believed to be from." ("Wow, I didn't know that ... San Diego,
California (where I was born and lived until 1980) [is] part of
England." - Taylor Kingston comment)
(3) "Edward Winter filed an ethics complaint with the FIDE Congress
accusing Keene of unethical conduct in writing books almost
exclusively about opening theory, whereas Winter said there should be
more books about chess history."
(4) "Keene's opponent was Florencio Campomanes who Winter supported."
(5) "Chess Notes ... contains brief commentaries usually not more
than one or two paragraphs in length attacking usually insignificant
errors and spelling mistakes made by this or that chess writer."
(6) "If a book by Keene contains a spelling mistake, Chess Notes will
point it out."

At rec.games.chess.politics, has referred to this
as "my biography". Sam Sloan is the one who contributed the
subsequently deleted supposed USCF blacklist. See discussion at:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chess_L...y_USCF_S ales

He also contributed the subsequently deleted Tom Dorsch "biography".
See:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikiped...ion/Tom_Dorsch

It should not be necessary for anyone to do a point by point
refutation of the Edward Winter "biography". The "verifiable" sources
do not exist and the author will not be able to produce them, as even
a minimal amount of inquiry would reveal. I apologize once again for
not being acquainted with the details of Wikipedia procedure. I have
no interest in Wikipedia beyond the hope that those in charge will
take measures to prevent its use for the promotion of garbage. I am
posting this note here because you have some past experience with Sam
Sloan. I imagine that you will know the best way to procede. - Louis
Blair (March 3, 2006)

----- End of quote ----

Of the six items that Louis Blair complains about above, the only one
of which there is the even slightest doubt is #2. The other five are
all very well known and widely reported. It is difficult to believe
that there is any regular reader of this group who does not know this.

This matter is made serious by the fact that Louis Blair was one of
the posters, along with Bill Brock, Randy Bauer, and "Rook wave", who
got my highly acclaimed biography of Tom Dorsch deleted from
Wikipedia.

Sam Sloan

Sam Sloan wrote:
I am truly shocked to learn that Louis Blair knows nothing about
chess. I had always assumed that in view of these frequent postings
where Blair posts quotes from other people, that he was a regular
reader of this group and had been following the discussions.

However, Blair has just posted something over on Wikipedia that
demonstrates that Blair knows nothing.

Here is what Blair wrote at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Howcheng :

Edward Winter biography

Once again, Wikipedia is being used to publicize an unverifiable
attack. In this case, the target is Edward Winter:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_G._Winter

Some sample ridiculous statements:

(1) "For the past more than 30 years, every time a new book by Keene
has come out or a new article by Keene has been published, Edward
Winter has written articles attacking it."
(2) "Kingston is from the same part of England that Winter is
believed to be from." ("Wow, I didn't know that ... San Diego,
California (where I was born and lived until 1980) [is] part of
England." - Taylor Kingston comment)
(3) "Edward Winter filed an ethics complaint with the FIDE Congress
accusing Keene of unethical conduct in writing books almost
exclusively about opening theory, whereas Winter said there should be
more books about chess history."
(4) "Keene's opponent was Florencio Campomanes who Winter supported."
(5) "Chess Notes ... contains brief commentaries usually not more
than one or two paragraphs in length attacking usually insignificant
errors and spelling mistakes made by this or that chess writer."
(6) "If a book by Keene contains a spelling mistake, Chess Notes will
point it out."

At rec.games.chess.politics, has referred to this
as "my biography". Sam Sloan is the one who contributed the
subsequently deleted supposed USCF blacklist. See discussion at:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chess_L...y_USCF_S ales

He also contributed the subsequently deleted Tom Dorsch "biography".
See:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikiped...ion/Tom_Dorsch

It should not be necessary for anyone to do a point by point
refutation of the Edward Winter "biography". The "verifiable" sources
do not exist and the author will not be able to produce them, as even
a minimal amount of inquiry would reveal. I apologize once again for
not being acquainted with the details of Wikipedia procedure. I have
no interest in Wikipedia beyond the hope that those in charge will
take measures to prevent its use for the promotion of garbage. I am
posting this note here because you have some past experience with Sam
Sloan. I imagine that you will know the best way to procede. - Louis
Blair (March 3, 2006)

----- End of quote ----

Of the six items that Louis Blair complains about above, the only one
of which there is the even slightest doubt is #2. The other five are
all very well known and widely reported. It is difficult to believe
that there is any regular reader of this group who does not know this.

This matter is made serious by the fact that Louis Blair was one of
the posters, along with Bill Brock, Randy Bauer, and "Rook wave", who
got my highly acclaimed biography of Tom Dorsch deleted from
Wikipedia.

Sam Sloan

I will delete your latest Wiki posting. You're nothing but an asshole.

Andrew Zito