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Sam Sloan's Research "Skills"?



 
 
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Old April 4th 08, 10:34 PM posted to rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.politics,soc.culture.usa,alt.politics.bush,alt.chess
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Default Sam Sloan's Research "Skills"?

On Apr 4, 2:39 pm, wrote:
On Apr 4, 9:12 am, wrote:



In another thread, Rev. J.D. Walker said of Sam Sloan:


On Apr 3, 6:48 pm, "J.D. Walker" wrote:


Sam,
Just for the record, I acknowledge your fierce skills at research.


I'm not sure what "fierce" was supposed to mean in this context, but
regulars of this newsgroup know that applying the word "skill" to
Sam's research is an oxymoron. He is generally quite slipshod.
Often his research is not just weak, but actively bad, using
fabrication rather than documentation. Just to mention one especially
ludicrous example involving myself:


"My source has confirmed that both Innes and Kingston are the same
person ... I don't believe they exist." - Sam Sloan, 29 December 2005


He later revised this to claim that chess historian Edward G. Winter
and I are the same person. (3 March 2006, seehttp://tinyurl.com/382e2z)


Other Sloan fiascoes that regulars here may recall include Peter
Leko's "death," the "missing" USCF records, his misdating the earliest
instances of the Benko Gambit, the claim that USCF ratings are not Elo
ratings, the claim that I am "webmaster" for ChessCafe.com, and many
others.


One particularly glaring example comes from April 2005, in Sloan's
examination of Japanese-American relations and urban housing trends:


http://tinyurl.com/27xx5h


Perhaps rgc readers recall other examples. We want to be sure that
Rev. Walker is fully informed.


I append another example of our Sam's research "skills," posted in
another thread just a few minutes ago. Referring to the Teapot Dome
Scandal, involving bribery for oil leases during the Harding

administration (1921-1923), Sam wrote:

"I fail to see how this one scandal, that did not come out until
years after Harding had died, could cause him to be labeled as the
Worst President Ever."

Leaving aside the issue of Harding's worth as a President, I just
want to comment on Sloan's claim that this scandal "did not come out
until years after Harding died." I quote from the 1988 World Book:

"In June 1923, Harding ... made the first presidential visit to
Canada and Alaska. A long message in code from Washington reached
Harding en route. It brought disturbing news about a Senate
investigation of oil leases. Reporters later said that the depressed
Harding asked reporters what a President could do when his friends
betrayed him."


Harding died on that trip when he reached back to San Francisco.
Obviously, he could have done nothing about it until he got back to
Washington. Also, at that point it was just the beginning on an
investigation. It was years after Harding died that the investigation
turned up anything.

What about the $6.5 billion contract that was corruptly awarded by
President Kennedy to build an inferior military aircraft. That was
obviously a much more serious deal than a legitimate oil lease to
Sinclare Oil.

The $6.5 billion contract awarded to General Dynamics is what many
conspiracy theorists believe led to the Kennedy Assassination. That is
discussed in detail in my other recent book, "Mafia Moll: The Judith
Exner Story, The Life of the Mistress of John F. Kennedy"
http://www.amazon.com/dp/0923891900

Odd: The $6.5 billion contract to build an inferior aircraft was known
while Kennedy was President and was under investigation by a Senate
Committee, but the investigation was shut down after Kennedy was
assassinated.

Yet, after Harding died of what are believed to be natural causes, he
was blamed for things that did not become known until years later.

By the way, I have not written the book yet. I am writing it now. But,
I already have the ISBN Number. It will appear at:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/0923891234

But I might also take time off to write a book about my friend Booby
the Fish, the one whom they kicked out of the USCF and now they are
shedding crocodile tears that he died.

Sam Sloan
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Old April 4th 08, 11:28 PM posted to rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.politics,soc.culture.usa,alt.politics.bush,alt.chess
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On Apr 4, 5:34 pm, samsloan wrote:
On Apr 4, 2:39 pm, wrote:

I append another example of our Sam's research "skills," posted in
another thread just a few minutes ago. Referring to the Teapot Dome
Scandal, involving bribery for oil leases during the Harding
administration (1921-1923), Sam wrote:


"I fail to see how this one scandal, that did not come out until
years after Harding had died, could cause him to be labeled as the
Worst President Ever."


Leaving aside the issue of Harding's worth as a President, I just
want to comment on Sloan's claim that this scandal "did not come out
until years after Harding died." I quote from the 1988 World Book:


"In June 1923, Harding ... made the first presidential visit to
Canada and Alaska. A long message in code from Washington reached
Harding en route. It brought disturbing news about a Senate
investigation of oil leases. Reporters later said that the depressed
Harding asked reporters what a President could do when his friends
betrayed him."


Harding died on that trip when he reached back to San Francisco.
Obviously, he could have done nothing about it until he got back to
Washington.


Which has no bearing on *_when_* the Teapot Dome Scandal became
known. That question was the main point of my post to which you are
replying.

Also, at that point it was just the beginning on an
investigation. It was years after Harding died that the investigation
turned up anything.


So nothing, not even grounds for suspicion, had turned up, yet a
Senate investigation had begun? Rrrrriiiight.

What about the $6.5 billion contract that was corruptly awarded by
President Kennedy to build an inferior military aircraft. That was
obviously a much more serious deal than a legitimate oil lease to
Sinclare Oil.


This has no bearing on *_when_* the Teapot Dome Scandal became
known, or on any aspect of it.

The $6.5 billion contract awarded to General Dynamics is what many
conspiracy theorists believe led to the Kennedy Assassination. That is
discussed in detail in my other recent book, "Mafia Moll: The Judith
Exner Story, The Life of the Mistress of John F. Kennedy"http://www.amazon.com/dp/0923891900


This has no bearing on *_when_* the Teapot Dome Scandal became
known, or on any aspect of it.

Odd: The $6.5 billion contract to build an inferior aircraft was known
while Kennedy was President and was under investigation by a Senate
Committee, but the investigation was shut down after Kennedy was
assassinated.


This has no bearing on *_when_* the Teapot Dome Scandal became
known, or on any aspect of it.

Yet, after Harding died of what are believed to be natural causes, he
was blamed for things that did not become known until years later.


And for the Teapot Dome Scandal, which became known while Harding
was alive, instead of "years later."
I take it Sam, that whereas now you present nothing to support your
earlier contention that the Teapot Dome scandal "did not come out
until years after Harding had died," you have abandoned that claim?
For the sake of anyone foolish enough to take your book seriously, I
hope so.

BTW, I just found this on Wikipedia. I don't like to quote that
somewhat unreliable source, but what it says seems relevant:

"On April 14, 1922, the Wall Street Journal reported a secret
arrangement in which Fall had leased the petroleum reserves to a
private oil company without competitive bidding. Fall denied the
claims, and the leases to the oil companies seemed legal enough on the
surface. However, the following day, Wyoming Democratic Senator John
B. Kendrick introduced a resolution that would set in motion one of
the most significant investigations in the Senate's history."

I may be going out on a limb, but it seems to me that if something
is reported in the Wall Street Journal, it has ceased to be secret,
and may be regarded as "known." And last I checked, April 1922 was a
year and four months *_before_* Harding died, not "years later."

Keep that fierce, skillful research coming, Sammy boy!
 




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