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Things are really heating up and it is going to be interesting as Ed
Labate and Ed Trice threaten each other. I do not know either of them so I have no opinion as to who is right, but Ed Labate has been involved in chess both as a book seller and as a tournament organizer for at least 40 years whereas Ed Trice is a recently arrived huxter, so I am inclined to believe that Ed Labate is right and Ed Trice is a fraud. On the other hand, Ed Labate filed a frivolous lawsuit against the USCF around 25 years ago for refusing to list his tournaments in the TLA section of Chess Life and was paid a settlement of $30,000. Ed Trice gets favorable mention for revealing that Rob "The Robber" Mitchell was trying to scam him for $35,000. Ed Trice has received a lot of favorable publicity on the Polgar websites. Read the following websites and formulate your own opinion: The Gothic Chess Federation Ed Labate http://www.gothicchess.com/labate.html Labate Chess Ed Trice http://www.labatechess.com/ed_trice.html Dear Ed Trice may be in a lot of trouble. As "My 61 Memorable Games" by Bobby Fischer goes from a mystery to a hoax ... US Chess Federation My 61 Memorable Games: A Mystery by GM Larry Evans February 1, 2008 http://main.uschess.org/content/view/8175/431 US Chess Federation My 61 Memorable Games: A Hoax by GM Larry Evans April 10, 2008 http://main.uschess.org/content/view/8333/446 Blame is casted and scapegoats are sought (including a criminal complaint with the FBI) ... Chess Ninja Daily Dirt Fischer Book http://www.chessninja.com/dailydirt/...k_for_real.htm Fischer's My 61 Memorable Games Google Groups http://groups.google.com/group/rec.g...d6ec973d0f119f Positions are declared, reputations are staked and a 10-count libel lawsuit is filed ... The Gothic Chess Forum Ed Labate page 1 http://z13.invisionfree.com/Gothic_C... opic=422&st=0 page 2 http://z13.invisionfree.com/Gothic_C...opic=422&st=15 |
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From the Gothic Chess Forum
http://z13.invisionfree.com/Gothic_C...p?s=779ceae97b... We have Trice saying "You see, I am not married, nor have I ever been" And yet back in 2003 on www.gothicchess.org: http://web.archive.org/web/200404231...c_2003_04.html the "Gothic Chess Patriarch" quoth: "I was there with my wife Ellie" (I love the WayBack Machine! - www.archive.org) This is just example where Trice has been caught out lying. The most hilarious examples can be found when he talks about the Gothic Chess tournaments he held which attracted 4000 or more participants! http://www.redhotpawn.com/board/show...d=54078&page=5 Would you buy a chunk of Mars from this man? www.legallyownlandonmars.com Ed Trice. A man who retired at 32 and owns three homes with no mortgage on any of them: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthre...=317580&page=3 And yet was forced into bankrupcy in 2004: http://tinyurl.com/49rkog I am one of many people who Trice has crossed over the years. He is the sort of man who can start an argument (and initiate a scam) in an empty room. |
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Ed Labate has been involved in chess both as a book seller and as a
tournament organizer for at least 40 years. Sam, I'm 53 years old...I've been selling chess books since 1979, and running tournaments since 1981,i.e. 24 years old and 26 years old, not at 13 years old! On the other hand, Ed Labate filed a frivolous lawsuit against the USCF around 25 years ago for refusing to list his tournaments in the TLA section of Chess Life and was paid a settlement of $30,000. Sam, I've emailed you on this before, and yet you persist and misstating what happened: The USCF suspended my affiliation without due process, i.e., notice. This was the famous "We received your money. However, your flag fell!' Gerry Dullea witticism. The USCF refuse to reinstate me, even though I know had a ZERO balance, thereby destroying my business. My business was based on foot traffic. Yes, they paid me to settle out of court $30,000.00, 13 months later!! Well, the damage was done. I won the battle and lost the war. My business never recovered and in 1990 I closed down my chess center and starting selling vintage sportscards. Best Wishes! Edward Labate National Chess Master P.O. Box 1404 Athens,AL. 35612 256.829.2298 / LEAVE MESSAGE OUTSIDE OF ALABAMA, TOLL FREE 877.336.7021 / LEAVE MESSAGE P.S. newest website listings http://www.labatechess.com/store/ http://www.amazon.com/shops/labatechess ALSO, MUST READING / Please forward as a warning and Public Service Announcement/PSA to all you know: http://www.labatechess.com/61_games.html My 61 Memorable Games Hoax http://www.labatechess.com/ed_trice.html 'PHILLY PHRAUD', Ed Trice/ Gothic Chess http://www.labatechess.com/robert_snyder.htmlm Convicted Felon/ Pedophile, Robert Snyder |
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On Sat, 31 May 2008 12:08:42 -0700 (PDT), Edward Labate
wrote: http://www.labatechess.com/robert_snyder.html Ed, is this the same guy who has a variation of the Sicilian named after him, and a variation in the Blackmar-Diemer gambit? |
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On Jun 2, 6:48*am, wrote:
Here is a message that Trice posted on chessgames.com just before the eBay auction for "My 61 Memorable Games" in December 2007: "Ed Trice: Not only is that old news, he is doing much better. Furthermore, his new book is being printed right now. A new email address can reach the man in direct contact with him regarding resellers who wish to order it. This is for people who will order 100 or more copies of it at a time for resale. If some of you want to "ask the man" anything, coming directly from him himself, get on this list. Maybe if you order 10 books at a discount and get 9 other people to do the same, one of you can collect the order money and make a reseller purchase of 100 books. For all serious inquires, send an email to and I will help move this along. NOTE: All I did was hook Fischer up with a reliable printer, I don't have the book, I don't have access to the book, I just helped him out when everyone else turned their backs on him." This doesn't really gel with what Trice now claims his involvement was, does it? On 31 May, 17:32, samsloan wrote: Things are really heating up and it is going to be interesting as Ed Labate and Ed Trice threaten each other. I do not know either of them so I have no opinion as to who is right, but Ed Labate has been involved in chess both as a book seller and as a tournament organizer for at least 40 years whereas Ed Trice is a recently arrived huxter, so I am inclined to believe that Ed Labate is right and Ed Trice is a fraud. On the other hand, Ed Labate filed a frivolous lawsuit against the USCF around 25 years ago for refusing to list his tournaments in the TLA section of Chess Life and was paid a settlement of $30,000. Ed Trice gets favorable mention for revealing that Rob "The Robber" Mitchell was trying to scam him for $35,000. Ed Trice has received a lot of favorable publicity on the Polgar websites. Read the following websites and formulate your own opinion: The Gothic Chess Federation Ed Labatehttp://www.gothicchess.com/labate.html Labate Chess Ed Tricehttp://www.labatechess.com/ed_trice.html Dear Ed Trice may be in a lot of trouble. As "My 61 Memorable Games" by Bobby Fischer goes from a mystery to a hoax ... US Chess Federation My 61 Memorable Games: A Mystery by GM Larry Evans February 1, 2008http://main.uschess.org/content/view/8175/431 US Chess Federation My 61 Memorable Games: A Hoax by GM Larry Evans April 10, 2008http://main.uschess.org/content/view/8333/446 Blame is casted and scapegoats are sought (including a criminal complaint with the FBI) ... Chess Ninja Daily Dirt Fischer Bookhttp://www.chessninja.com/dailydirt/2007/12/fischer_book_for_real.htm Fischer's My 61 Memorable Games Google Groupshttp://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.chess.politics/browse_thread... Positions are declared, reputations are staked and a 10-count libel lawsuit is filed ... The Gothic Chess Forum Ed Labate page 1http://z13.invisionfree.com/Gothic_Chess_Forum/index.php?s=779ceae97b... page 2http://z13.invisionfree.com/Gothic_Chess_Forum/index.php?s=71c84948aa...- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Believe Mr. Labate |
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On Jun 2, 5:42 pm, Rob wrote:
Believe Mr. Labate Interesting point: It is primarily because of Ed Trice that Rob "The Robber" Mitchell got his moniker "The Robber". So, as it becomes increasingly clear that Ed Trice was behind the "My 61 Memorable Games Hoax", one must consider the possibility, however unlikely as it may seem, that Rob Mitchell really did not try to swindle Ed Trice out of $35,000. Also, it was Ed Trice who claimed that he had written a computer program that had solved the game of checkers. This turns out not to be true either. So, we must look back and re-evaluate all the claims that Ed Trice has been making. Sam Sloan |
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Lots to read. Some things contradict. Tough to sort out. A few things
though You can't take anyone to court after you blab about it the way stuff went on here. Legal matters are private matters. Someone wronged you, you have to go through proper channels. The fact that both people ranted about it on the web is grounds to dismiss anything mentioned as evidence. The Wikipedia page shows him as born in PA, but Searching around with internet detective and Intelius web site you find Ed Trice in Port Jefferson, NY Ed Trice in Belle Terre, NY Ed Trice in Syosset, NY Ed Trice in Long Beach, NY Ed Trice in North Wales, PA Ed Trice in Jamison, PA Ed Trice in Doylestown, PA Ed Trice in Hatfield, PA Ed Trice in Dover, DE Ed Trice in Rehoboth Beach, DE Ed Trice in District Heights, MD Ed Trice in Salisbury, MD Ed Trice is Denton, MD 4 of the addresses correspond to someone 70+ years in age. 3 of the addresses correspond to someone 50+ years in age. 6 of the addresses correspond to someone 40+ years in age. The Hatfield address was for a 74 year old that died in August of 2004. I assume that is not the person. The Delaware addresses are both for a 40 year old with middle initial "A". The USCF ID page that I saw in one of the posts shows that Edward A Trice lives in Delaware. So, this must be the person in question. The posts on the Chess Ninja page blame someone from PA for making posts. Again, looks like a case of people jumping to a possible conclusion. Next item. Long long post on the blog about the Fischer match thing. Seems to be from a few years back. Seems some company asked for money and did nothing to make the match happen. Only way to resolve it - can people who contacted Fischer prove it? What would they be willing to stake to back up their claims? Seems a simple way. Do a 3 way call with the Iceland folks. Mitchell, Trice, whoever else. Record it. Turn it into an MP3. Host it. That will answer that. As for the book deal and the 6 month scam for $6000. Seems like a contract is needed. Email is not a contract. Also, saw somewhere Labate said 'No thanks.' End of story. Declining a deal is no way to claim 'foul' once you are out. Did a whole Intelius search on Labate too. Seems he won some sort of huge law suit from years back. Was a hell of a lot more than $30,000. Had an extra zero on it. Don't have all the detail, don't care for them. I saw the scan of the docket. So what's the docket number for the thing with Trice? No docket means no case and all the rest is just a bunch of hot air. V. Rosen On 31 May, 12:32, samsloan wrote: Things are really heating up and it is going to be interesting as Ed Labate and Ed Trice threaten each other. I do not know either of them so I have no opinion as to who is right, but Ed Labate has been involved in chess both as a book seller and as a tournament organizer for at least 40 years whereas Ed Trice is a recently arrived huxter, so I am inclined to believe that Ed Labate is right and Ed Trice is a fraud. On the other hand, Ed Labate filed a frivolous lawsuit against the USCF around 25 years ago for refusing to list his tournaments in the TLA section of Chess Life and was paid a settlement of $30,000. Ed Trice gets favorable mention for revealing that Rob "The Robber" Mitchell was trying to scam him for $35,000. Ed Trice has received a lot of favorable publicity on the Polgar websites. Read the following websites and formulate your own opinion: The Gothic Chess Federation Ed Labatehttp://www.gothicchess.com/labate.html Labate Chess Ed Tricehttp://www.labatechess.com/ed_trice.html Dear Ed Trice may be in a lot of trouble. As "My 61 Memorable Games" by Bobby Fischer goes from a mystery to a hoax ... US Chess Federation My 61 Memorable Games: A Mystery by GM Larry Evans February 1, 2008http://main.uschess.org/content/view/8175/431 US Chess Federation My 61 Memorable Games: A Hoax by GM Larry Evans April 10, 2008http://main.uschess.org/content/view/8333/446 Blame is casted and scapegoats are sought (including a criminal complaint with the FBI) ... Chess Ninja Daily Dirt Fischer Bookhttp://www.chessninja.com/dailydirt/2007/12/fischer_book_for_real.htm Fischer's My 61 Memorable Games Google Groupshttp://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.chess.politics/browse_thread... Positions are declared, reputations are staked and a 10-count libel lawsuit is filed ... The Gothic Chess Forum Ed Labate page 1http://z13.invisionfree.com/Gothic_Chess_Forum/index.php?s=779ceae97b... page 2http://z13.invisionfree.com/Gothic_Chess_Forum/index.php?s=71c84948aa... |
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I'll just address one of your points for now. Ed Trice (hereafter
called "that buffoon Ed Trice" to distinguish him from any other Ed Trices) definitely lives in Radnor, Pennsylvania. The whois server for gothicchess.com: http://who.godaddy.com/WhoIs.aspx?do...rog_id=godaddy lists his address as 309 Tory Turn, Radnor. Funnily enough, this is also the address of the Colgan family. Brian Colgan is one of the few people who actually exist in the Gothic Chess Federation apart from that buffoon Ed Trice himself, though Colgan is certainly not involved with Gothic Chess full time. Since that buffoon Ed Trice went bankrupt and lost his house in 2004: http://tinyurl.com/49rkog The most likely explanation is that Trice now lives in a bedsit at the home of his friend, Brian Colgan. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bobby Fischer's "My 61 Memorable Games" read all about it he http://www.labatechess.com/61_games.html On 4 Jun, 06:05, wrote: The Wikipedia page shows him as born in PA, but Searching around with internet detective and Intelius web site you find Ed Trice in Port Jefferson, NY Ed Trice in Belle Terre, NY Ed Trice in Syosset, NY Ed Trice in Long Beach, NY Ed Trice in North Wales, PA Ed Trice in Jamison, PA Ed Trice in Doylestown, PA Ed Trice in Hatfield, PA Ed Trice in Dover, DE Ed Trice in Rehoboth Beach, DE Ed Trice in District Heights, MD Ed Trice in Salisbury, MD Ed Trice is Denton, MD 4 of the addresses correspond to someone 70+ years in age. 3 of the addresses correspond to someone 50+ years in age. 6 of the addresses correspond to someone 40+ years in age. The Hatfield address was for a 74 year old that died in August of 2004. I assume that is not the person. The Delaware addresses are both for a 40 year old with middle initial "A". The USCF ID page that I saw in one of the posts shows that Edward A Trice lives in Delaware. So, this must be the person in question. The posts on the Chess Ninja page blame someone from PA for making posts. Again, looks like a case of people jumping to a possible conclusion. |
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Take a look at what is happening over on the Wikipedia biography of
Bobby Fischer: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Bo...mentioned_here Somebody (no doubt Ed Trice himself) keeps posting to the biography of Bobby that Bobby agreed to play a match of Gothic Chess. Of course, this is not true, a pure fabrication. Bobby would not even agree to play a match of regular chess. Sam Sloan |
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