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Old May 31st 08, 06:32 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.computer,alt.chess,misc.legal
samsloan
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Default Ed Labate vs. Ed Trice

Things are really heating up and it is going to be interesting as Ed
Labate and Ed Trice threaten each other.

I do not know either of them so I have no opinion as to who is right,
but Ed Labate has been involved in chess both as a book seller and as
a tournament organizer for at least 40 years whereas Ed Trice is a
recently arrived huxter, so I am inclined to believe that Ed Labate is
right and Ed Trice is a fraud.

On the other hand, Ed Labate filed a frivolous lawsuit against the
USCF around 25 years ago for refusing to list his tournaments in the
TLA section of Chess Life and was paid a settlement of $30,000. Ed
Trice gets favorable mention for revealing that Rob "The Robber"
Mitchell was trying to scam him for $35,000. Ed Trice has received a
lot of favorable publicity on the Polgar websites.

Read the following websites and formulate your own opinion:


The Gothic Chess Federation
Ed Labate
http://www.gothicchess.com/labate.html

Labate Chess
Ed Trice
http://www.labatechess.com/ed_trice.html

Dear Ed Trice may be in a lot of trouble.

As "My 61 Memorable Games" by Bobby Fischer goes from a mystery to a
hoax ...

US Chess Federation
My 61 Memorable Games: A Mystery
by GM Larry Evans
February 1, 2008
http://main.uschess.org/content/view/8175/431

US Chess Federation
My 61 Memorable Games: A Hoax
by GM Larry Evans
April 10, 2008
http://main.uschess.org/content/view/8333/446

Blame is casted and scapegoats are sought (including a criminal
complaint with the FBI) ...

Chess Ninja
Daily Dirt
Fischer Book
http://www.chessninja.com/dailydirt/...k_for_real.htm

Fischer's My 61 Memorable Games
Google Groups
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.g...d6ec973d0f119f

Positions are declared, reputations are staked and a 10-count libel
lawsuit is filed ...

The Gothic Chess Forum
Ed Labate
page 1
http://z13.invisionfree.com/Gothic_C... opic=422&st=0
page 2
http://z13.invisionfree.com/Gothic_C...opic=422&st=15
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  #2  
Old May 31st 08, 07:54 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.computer,alt.chess,misc.legal
jon.dsouzaeva@gmail.com
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Default Ed Labate vs. Ed Trice

From the Gothic Chess Forum
http://z13.invisionfree.com/Gothic_C...p?s=779ceae97b...
We have Trice saying
"You see, I am not married, nor have I ever been"

And yet back in 2003 on www.gothicchess.org:
http://web.archive.org/web/200404231...c_2003_04.html
the "Gothic Chess Patriarch" quoth:
"I was there with my wife Ellie"

(I love the WayBack Machine! - www.archive.org)

This is just example where Trice has been caught out lying. The most
hilarious examples can be found when he talks about the Gothic Chess
tournaments he held which attracted 4000 or more participants!
http://www.redhotpawn.com/board/show...d=54078&page=5

Would you buy a chunk of Mars from this man?
www.legallyownlandonmars.com

Ed Trice. A man who retired at 32 and owns three homes with no
mortgage on any of them:
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthre...=317580&page=3
And yet was forced into bankrupcy in 2004:
http://tinyurl.com/49rkog

I am one of many people who Trice has crossed over the years. He is
the sort of man who can start an argument (and initiate a scam) in an
empty room.
  #3  
Old May 31st 08, 09:08 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.computer,alt.chess,misc.legal
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Default Ed Labate vs. Ed Trice

Ed Labate has been involved in chess both as a book seller and as a
tournament organizer for at least 40 years.

Sam, I'm 53 years old...I've been selling chess books since 1979, and
running tournaments since 1981,i.e. 24 years old and 26 years old, not
at 13 years old!

On the other hand, Ed Labate filed a frivolous lawsuit against the
USCF around 25 years ago for refusing to list his tournaments in the
TLA section of Chess Life and was paid a settlement of $30,000.

Sam, I've emailed you on this before, and yet you persist and
misstating what happened: The USCF suspended my affiliation without
due process, i.e., notice. This was the famous "We received your
money. However, your flag fell!' Gerry Dullea witticism. The USCF
refuse to reinstate me, even though I know had a ZERO balance, thereby
destroying my business. My business was based on foot traffic. Yes,
they paid me to settle out of court $30,000.00, 13 months later!!
Well, the damage was done. I won the battle and lost the war. My
business never recovered and in 1990 I closed down my chess center and
starting selling vintage sportscards.

Best Wishes!

Edward Labate
National Chess Master
P.O. Box 1404
Athens,AL. 35612

256.829.2298 / LEAVE MESSAGE
OUTSIDE OF ALABAMA,
TOLL FREE 877.336.7021 / LEAVE MESSAGE



P.S. newest website listings
http://www.labatechess.com/store/

http://www.amazon.com/shops/labatechess

ALSO, MUST READING / Please forward as a warning and Public Service
Announcement/PSA to all you know:
http://www.labatechess.com/61_games.html My 61 Memorable Games
Hoax
http://www.labatechess.com/ed_trice.html 'PHILLY PHRAUD', Ed Trice/
Gothic Chess
http://www.labatechess.com/robert_snyder.htmlm Convicted Felon/
Pedophile, Robert Snyder
  #4  
Old June 1st 08, 06:38 AM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.computer,alt.chess,misc.legal
Mike Murray
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Default Ed Labate vs. Ed Trice

On Sat, 31 May 2008 12:08:42 -0700 (PDT), Edward Labate
wrote:


http://www.labatechess.com/robert_snyder.html



Ed, is this the same guy who has a variation of the Sicilian named
after him, and a variation in the Blackmar-Diemer gambit?
  #5  
Old June 2nd 08, 01:48 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.computer,alt.chess,misc.legal
jon.dsouzaeva@gmail.com
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Default Ed Labate vs. Ed Trice

Here is a message that Trice posted on chessgames.com just before the
eBay auction for "My 61 Memorable Games" in December 2007:

"Ed Trice: Not only is that old news, he is doing much better.
Furthermore, his new book is being printed right now. A new email
address can reach the man in direct contact with him regarding
resellers who wish to order it. This is for people who will order 100
or more copies of it at a time for resale. If some of you want to "ask
the man" anything, coming directly from him himself, get on this list.
Maybe if you order 10 books at a discount and get 9 other people to do
the same, one of you can collect the order money and make a reseller
purchase of 100 books. For all serious inquires, send an email to
and I will help move this along. NOTE: All I
did was hook Fischer up with a reliable printer, I don't have the
book, I don't have access to the book, I just helped him out when
everyone else turned their backs on him."

This doesn't really gel with what Trice now claims his involvement
was, does it?



On 31 May, 17:32, samsloan wrote:
Things are really heating up and it is going to be interesting as Ed
Labate and Ed Trice threaten each other.

I do not know either of them so I have no opinion as to who is right,
but Ed Labate has been involved in chess both as a book seller and as
a tournament organizer for at least 40 years whereas Ed Trice is a
recently arrived huxter, so I am inclined to believe that Ed Labate is
right and Ed Trice is a fraud.

On the other hand, Ed Labate filed a frivolous lawsuit against the
USCF around 25 years ago for refusing to list his tournaments in the
TLA section of Chess Life and was paid a settlement of $30,000. Ed
Trice gets favorable mention for revealing that Rob "The Robber"
Mitchell was trying to scam him for $35,000. Ed Trice has received a
lot of favorable publicity on the Polgar websites.

Read the following websites and formulate your own opinion:

The Gothic Chess Federation
Ed Labatehttp://www.gothicchess.com/labate.html

Labate Chess
Ed Tricehttp://www.labatechess.com/ed_trice.html

Dear Ed Trice may be in a lot of trouble.

As "My 61 Memorable Games" by Bobby Fischer goes from a mystery to a
hoax ...

US Chess Federation
My 61 Memorable Games: A Mystery
by GM Larry Evans
February 1, 2008http://main.uschess.org/content/view/8175/431

US Chess Federation
My 61 Memorable Games: A Hoax
by GM Larry Evans
April 10, 2008http://main.uschess.org/content/view/8333/446

Blame is casted and scapegoats are sought (including a criminal
complaint with the FBI) ...

Chess Ninja
Daily Dirt
Fischer Bookhttp://www.chessninja.com/dailydirt/2007/12/fischer_book_for_real.htm

Fischer's My 61 Memorable Games
Google Groupshttp://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.chess.politics/browse_thread...

Positions are declared, reputations are staked and a 10-count libel
lawsuit is filed ...

The Gothic Chess Forum
Ed Labate
page 1http://z13.invisionfree.com/Gothic_Chess_Forum/index.php?s=779ceae97b...
page 2http://z13.invisionfree.com/Gothic_Chess_Forum/index.php?s=71c84948aa...


  #6  
Old June 2nd 08, 11:42 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.computer,alt.chess,misc.legal
Rob
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Default Ed Labate vs. Ed Trice

On Jun 2, 6:48*am, wrote:
Here is a message that Trice posted on chessgames.com just before the
eBay auction for "My 61 Memorable Games" in December 2007:

"Ed Trice: Not only is that old news, he is doing much better.
Furthermore, his new book is being printed right now. A new email
address can reach the man in direct contact with him regarding
resellers who wish to order it. This is for people who will order 100
or more copies of it at a time for resale. If some of you want to "ask
the man" anything, coming directly from him himself, get on this list.
Maybe if you order 10 books at a discount and get 9 other people to do
the same, one of you can collect the order money and make a reseller
purchase of 100 books. For all serious inquires, send an email to
and I will help move this along. NOTE: All I
did was hook Fischer up with a reliable printer, I don't have the
book, I don't have access to the book, I just helped him out when
everyone else turned their backs on him."

This doesn't really gel with what Trice now claims his involvement
was, does it?

On 31 May, 17:32, samsloan wrote:



Things are really heating up and it is going to be interesting as Ed
Labate and Ed Trice threaten each other.


I do not know either of them so I have no opinion as to who is right,
but Ed Labate has been involved in chess both as a book seller and as
a tournament organizer for at least 40 years whereas Ed Trice is a
recently arrived huxter, so I am inclined to believe that Ed Labate is
right and Ed Trice is a fraud.


On the other hand, Ed Labate filed a frivolous lawsuit against the
USCF around 25 years ago for refusing to list his tournaments in the
TLA section of Chess Life and was paid a settlement of $30,000. Ed
Trice gets favorable mention for revealing that Rob "The Robber"
Mitchell was trying to scam him for $35,000. Ed Trice has received a
lot of favorable publicity on the Polgar websites.


Read the following websites and formulate your own opinion:


The Gothic Chess Federation
Ed Labatehttp://www.gothicchess.com/labate.html


Labate Chess
Ed Tricehttp://www.labatechess.com/ed_trice.html


Dear Ed Trice may be in a lot of trouble.


As "My 61 Memorable Games" by Bobby Fischer goes from a mystery to a
hoax ...


US Chess Federation
My 61 Memorable Games: A Mystery
by GM Larry Evans
February 1, 2008http://main.uschess.org/content/view/8175/431


US Chess Federation
My 61 Memorable Games: A Hoax
by GM Larry Evans
April 10, 2008http://main.uschess.org/content/view/8333/446


Blame is casted and scapegoats are sought (including a criminal
complaint with the FBI) ...


Chess Ninja
Daily Dirt
Fischer Bookhttp://www.chessninja.com/dailydirt/2007/12/fischer_book_for_real.htm


Fischer's My 61 Memorable Games
Google Groupshttp://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.chess.politics/browse_thread...


Positions are declared, reputations are staked and a 10-count libel
lawsuit is filed ...


The Gothic Chess Forum
Ed Labate
page 1http://z13.invisionfree.com/Gothic_Chess_Forum/index.php?s=779ceae97b...
page 2http://z13.invisionfree.com/Gothic_Chess_Forum/index.php?s=71c84948aa...- Hide quoted text -


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Believe Mr. Labate
  #7  
Old June 2nd 08, 11:56 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.computer,alt.chess,misc.legal
samsloan
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On Jun 2, 5:42 pm, Rob wrote:

Believe Mr. Labate


Interesting point: It is primarily because of Ed Trice that Rob "The
Robber" Mitchell got his moniker "The Robber".

So, as it becomes increasingly clear that Ed Trice was behind the "My
61 Memorable Games Hoax", one must consider the possibility, however
unlikely as it may seem, that Rob Mitchell really did not try to
swindle Ed Trice out of $35,000.

Also, it was Ed Trice who claimed that he had written a computer
program that had solved the game of checkers. This turns out not to be
true either.

So, we must look back and re-evaluate all the claims that Ed Trice has
been making.

Sam Sloan

  #8  
Old June 4th 08, 07:05 AM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.computer,alt.chess,misc.legal
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Lots to read. Some things contradict. Tough to sort out. A few things
though

You can't take anyone to court after you blab about it the way stuff
went on here. Legal matters are private matters. Someone wronged you,
you have to go through proper channels. The fact that both people
ranted about it on the web is grounds to dismiss anything mentioned as
evidence.

The Wikipedia page shows him as born in PA, but

Searching around with internet detective and Intelius web site you
find

Ed Trice in Port Jefferson, NY
Ed Trice in Belle Terre, NY
Ed Trice in Syosset, NY
Ed Trice in Long Beach, NY
Ed Trice in North Wales, PA
Ed Trice in Jamison, PA
Ed Trice in Doylestown, PA
Ed Trice in Hatfield, PA
Ed Trice in Dover, DE
Ed Trice in Rehoboth Beach, DE
Ed Trice in District Heights, MD
Ed Trice in Salisbury, MD
Ed Trice is Denton, MD

4 of the addresses correspond to someone 70+ years in age.
3 of the addresses correspond to someone 50+ years in age.
6 of the addresses correspond to someone 40+ years in age.

The Hatfield address was for a 74 year old that died in August of
2004. I assume that is not the person.

The Delaware addresses are both for a 40 year old with middle initial
"A".
The USCF ID page that I saw in one of the posts shows that Edward A
Trice lives in Delaware.
So, this must be the person in question.

The posts on the Chess Ninja page blame someone from PA for making
posts. Again, looks like a case of people jumping to a possible
conclusion.

Next item.

Long long post on the blog about the Fischer match thing. Seems to be
from a few years back. Seems some company asked for money and did
nothing to make the match happen.

Only way to resolve it - can people who contacted Fischer prove it?
What would they be willing to stake to back up their claims? Seems a
simple way. Do a 3 way call with the Iceland folks. Mitchell, Trice,
whoever else. Record it. Turn it into an MP3. Host it. That will
answer that.

As for the book deal and the 6 month scam for $6000.

Seems like a contract is needed. Email is not a contract. Also, saw
somewhere Labate said 'No thanks.' End of story. Declining a deal is
no way to claim 'foul' once you are out.

Did a whole Intelius search on Labate too. Seems he won some sort of
huge law suit from years back. Was a hell of a lot more than $30,000.
Had an extra zero on it. Don't have all the detail, don't care for
them. I saw the scan of the docket.

So what's the docket number for the thing with Trice? No docket means
no case and all the rest is just a bunch of hot air.

V. Rosen



On 31 May, 12:32, samsloan wrote:
Things are really heating up and it is going to be interesting as Ed
Labate and Ed Trice threaten each other.

I do not know either of them so I have no opinion as to who is right,
but Ed Labate has been involved in chess both as a book seller and as
a tournament organizer for at least 40 years whereas Ed Trice is a
recently arrived huxter, so I am inclined to believe that Ed Labate is
right and Ed Trice is a fraud.

On the other hand, Ed Labate filed a frivolous lawsuit against the
USCF around 25 years ago for refusing to list his tournaments in the
TLA section of Chess Life and was paid a settlement of $30,000. Ed
Trice gets favorable mention for revealing that Rob "The Robber"
Mitchell was trying to scam him for $35,000. Ed Trice has received a
lot of favorable publicity on the Polgar websites.

Read the following websites and formulate your own opinion:

The Gothic Chess Federation
Ed Labatehttp://www.gothicchess.com/labate.html

Labate Chess
Ed Tricehttp://www.labatechess.com/ed_trice.html

Dear Ed Trice may be in a lot of trouble.

As "My 61 Memorable Games" by Bobby Fischer goes from a mystery to a
hoax ...

US Chess Federation
My 61 Memorable Games: A Mystery
by GM Larry Evans
February 1, 2008http://main.uschess.org/content/view/8175/431

US Chess Federation
My 61 Memorable Games: A Hoax
by GM Larry Evans
April 10, 2008http://main.uschess.org/content/view/8333/446

Blame is casted and scapegoats are sought (including a criminal
complaint with the FBI) ...

Chess Ninja
Daily Dirt
Fischer Bookhttp://www.chessninja.com/dailydirt/2007/12/fischer_book_for_real.htm

Fischer's My 61 Memorable Games
Google Groupshttp://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.chess.politics/browse_thread...

Positions are declared, reputations are staked and a 10-count libel
lawsuit is filed ...

The Gothic Chess Forum
Ed Labate
page 1http://z13.invisionfree.com/Gothic_Chess_Forum/index.php?s=779ceae97b...
page 2http://z13.invisionfree.com/Gothic_Chess_Forum/index.php?s=71c84948aa...


  #9  
Old June 4th 08, 12:52 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.computer,alt.chess,misc.legal
jon.dsouzaeva@gmail.com
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I'll just address one of your points for now. Ed Trice (hereafter
called "that buffoon Ed Trice" to distinguish him from any other Ed
Trices) definitely lives in Radnor, Pennsylvania.

The whois server for gothicchess.com:
http://who.godaddy.com/WhoIs.aspx?do...rog_id=godaddy
lists his address as 309 Tory Turn, Radnor.

Funnily enough, this is also the address of the Colgan family. Brian
Colgan is one of the few people who actually exist in the Gothic Chess
Federation apart from that buffoon Ed Trice himself, though Colgan is
certainly not involved with Gothic Chess full time.

Since that buffoon Ed Trice went bankrupt and lost his house in 2004:
http://tinyurl.com/49rkog
The most likely explanation is that Trice now lives in a bedsit at the
home of his friend, Brian Colgan.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Bobby Fischer's "My 61 Memorable Games"
read all about it he http://www.labatechess.com/61_games.html


On 4 Jun, 06:05, wrote:

The Wikipedia page shows him as born in PA, but

Searching around with internet detective and Intelius web site you
find

Ed Trice in Port Jefferson, NY
Ed Trice in Belle Terre, NY
Ed Trice in Syosset, NY
Ed Trice in Long Beach, NY
Ed Trice in North Wales, PA
Ed Trice in Jamison, PA
Ed Trice in Doylestown, PA
Ed Trice in Hatfield, PA
Ed Trice in Dover, DE
Ed Trice in Rehoboth Beach, DE
Ed Trice in District Heights, MD
Ed Trice in Salisbury, MD
Ed Trice is Denton, MD

4 of the addresses correspond to someone 70+ years in age.
3 of the addresses correspond to someone 50+ years in age.
6 of the addresses correspond to someone 40+ years in age.

The Hatfield address was for a 74 year old that died in August of
2004. I assume that is not the person.

The Delaware addresses are both for a 40 year old with middle initial
"A".
The USCF ID page that I saw in one of the posts shows that Edward A
Trice lives in Delaware.
So, this must be the person in question.

The posts on the Chess Ninja page blame someone from PA for making
posts. Again, looks like a case of people jumping to a possible
conclusion.

  #10  
Old June 6th 08, 12:40 PM posted to rec.games.chess.politics,rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.computer,alt.chess,misc.legal
samsloan
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Default Ed Labate vs. Ed Trice

Take a look at what is happening over on the Wikipedia biography of
Bobby Fischer:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Bo...mentioned_here

Somebody (no doubt Ed Trice himself) keeps posting to the biography of
Bobby that Bobby agreed to play a match of Gothic Chess.

Of course, this is not true, a pure fabrication. Bobby would not even
agree to play a match of regular chess.

Sam Sloan
 




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