So, now we're down to blaming the user. System is messed up or too
many windows. Yep, good business practice, with good programming
practice.

Daily 10-20 games are played at GetClub and no one is facing any
problem. Only he is facing the problem. So I conclude either he uses
too many browsers at a time or He uses multiple programs at a time.

Thats the reasion I ask him to not open many files.

Same problem once happened to me then I found the Anti virus program
was creating these problems.

Remove all unnecesary files and then play. I am sure you will be able
to complete your game.

I saw you finished one game easrlier then what happened now?

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

I turned up at Getclubv to continue my match with the program. I am
obviously strangely addicted to the venture, as there is no rational
expanation to my behaviour except perhaps that I'm not going through
easy times, and that beating anything at chess always feels good.

As Instructed I closed all applications, and barely left another
webpage open to look at while getclub was pondering away.

This third game, i played badly in the opening, and GC, to my
surprise, played reasonably well, coming out slightly better out of
the opening, but then missing a simple continuation that would have
given it an extra pawn.
Right when I'm getting my pieces organized to take the game to an
ending ( yes helpbot, I couldn't beat GC again in the Opening, or the
Middlegame, but then, it IS rated about 200 points higher than
me ... ), GC plays the incredible Rf3 !?. Now that is amazing, as it's
the first time I've seen ANY program making a tricky move ! It doesn't
win, it doesn't lose, it mixes it up, wow, that's how a HUMAN plays.
Usually I've seen " ! " and " ?? " from handicapped level programs,
but never a " !? ".

Anyway, I don't fall for it and GC comes out B + N v. R, it's looking
unclear but programs are famous for sucking at endgames so I'm still
pretty hopeful, but, obviously satisfied by the previous semi-
brillancy, GC just GAVE ME ANOTHER MOVE, in practice losing a piece
and giving me back my win from the previous game that had misteriously
" disappeared ".

I was deeply touched. You can say a lot of things about GC, but not
that It hasn't got a soul, and that it can't mend the error of it's
ways. So I took the piece, but then I RESIGNED, as such gallant
behaviour deserves recognition.
I can proudly say a friendship is born today.

Also, for all you unbelievers out there, my + 1 - 1 score against Easy
means the program AVERAGES AT ABOUT 2000 FIDE, which is, if I'm not
mistaken, 2100 of YOUR RATING, hence Sanny's estimates are ENTIRELY
CORRECT, so there.

Of course, the best way to improve is to play someone slightly better
than yourself, so seeing that me and GC are at about the same level, I
won't be playing with again.

Just to add that regardless of dedicating my entire system to GC, it
still took ages to make a move, and I still had to relog about 5 times
before GC, in it's own way, resigned.

But I accept that I should probably reformat my HD.

Till then, take care :O)

On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 11:10:28 -0700 (PDT), Sanny
wrote:


So, now we're down to blaming the user. System is messed up or too
many windows. Yep, good business practice, with good programming
practice.

Daily 10-20 games are played at GetClub and no one is facing any
problem. Only he is facing the problem. So I conclude either he uses
too many browsers at a time or He uses multiple programs at a time.

What if, say multiple people are playing at once? 10-20 games isn't
that much of a test set.


Thats the reasion I ask him to not open many files.

Same problem once happened to me then I found the Anti virus program
was creating these problems.

Begs the question, is it your program that is creating too many files?


Remove all unnecesary files and then play. I am sure you will be able
to complete your game.

I saw you finished one game easrlier then what happened now?

Maybe I'm concerned I might have to delete files to play.... Or get a
faster machine.

Or maybe I answered that question before.


Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

Heres is your game. You could have win the game as the knight was
trapped by Rook & Pawn.

Well Played. Looks like you have a old computer thats why GetClub
played badly.

Are you 2000+ Rated? If yes do you think Easy Level is also arround
2000+?

Game Played between alessandro j. and easy at GetClub.com

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
alessandro j.: (White)
easy: (Black)
Game Played at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
View Recorded Game: http://www.getclub.com/playgame.php?...567&game=Chess
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

White -- Black
(alessandro j.) -- (easy)

1. d2-d4{4} f7-f5{0}
2. c2-c4{6} Ng8-f6{0}
3. Nb1-c3{2} Nb8-c6{22}
4. Bc1-g5{12} e7-e6{248}
5. e2-e4{24} f5-e4{26}
6. Nc3-e4{6} Bf8-b4{34}
7. Ne4-c3{16} Bb4-c3{26}
8. b2-c3{4} h7-h6{30}
9. Bg5-h4{12} g7-g5{24}
10. Bh4-g3{16} Ke8-g8{106}
11. Bf1-d3{18} b7-b6{66}
12. Ng1-e2{14} Bc8-b7{40}
13. Ke1-g1{4} Rf8-f7{40}
14. f2-f4{18} Nf6-h5{46}
15. Qd1-d2{20} g5-f4{56}
16. Bg3-f4{20} Nh5-f4{38}
17. Ne2-f4{6} Qd8-g5{34}
18. Rf1-f2{42} Ra8-f8{28}
19. Ra1-f1{4} Nc6-a5{60}
20. Nf4-h3{64} Qg5-d2{50}
21. Rf2-d2{4} Rf7-f1{20}
22. Bd3-f1{4} Bb7-e4{264}
23. Nh3-f2{60} Be4-f5{26}
24. Nf2-d1{34} Na5-c6{56}
25. Nd1-e3{14} Bf5-h7{32}
26. a2-a4{70} Bh7-e4{142}
27. d4-d5{88} Nc6-e5{118}
28. a4-a5{92} Rf8-f3{20}
29. a5-b6{108} a7-b6{114}
30. Ne3-g4{32} Rf3-f1{24}
31. Kg1-f1{14} Ne5-g4{140}
32. Rd2-d4{42} Rd2-d4{0}
33. Rd4-e4{122} Ng4-h2{170}
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
alessandro j.: (White)
easy: (Black)
Game Played at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
View Recorded Game: http://www.getclub.com/playgame.php?...567&game=Chess

This game was a win for you.

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

On 13 Lug, 08:53, Sanny wrote:
Heres is your game. You could have win the game as the knight was
trapped by Rook & Pawn.

It's somehow escaped your attention that Black's 32 nd is a non-move.
before that bug, the game was level, Black having a slight edge.


Well Played. Looks like you have a old computer thats why GetClub
played badly.

It's a 3 year old PC


Are you 2000+ Rated? If yes do you think Easy Level is also arround
2000+?

I'm around 2000. Rather than have me tell you, why don't you test your
program on dedicated sites, like everyone else does ?


This game was a win for you.

Nope.
Your GC program is a friend of mine, I don't want to be stealing
points that aren't mine.

Nope.
Your GC program is a friend of mine, I don't want to be stealing
points that aren't mine.


Long Live the Friendship with GetClub Chess.

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

On Jul 12, 10:47 am, Patrick Volk wrote:
On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 18:24:23 -0700 (PDT), help bot

At move 6, I think it was, my Firefox freezed again.

The bug which prevented GC from loading
its Java applet has been corrected. Maybe
your system is just messed up?

I must be getting twice stupid every time by carrying on playing
against this thing, can't explain any other way why I bothered to
return.

Try this experiment: read some of Dr.
IMnes' postings to rgc; if they now seem
to make sense to you, you have indeed
been dumbed-down just as you suspect.

So, now we're down to blaming the user.

Sanny asserted that the user's problem
was caused by him having too many
browsers open at the same time-- a mere
guess, IMO.


System is messed up or too
many windows. Yep, good business practice, with good programming
practice.

Standard business practice? "Call tech
support"/ "As the software is free, we don't
provide tech support", etc.


You think chess is the only game in town with tactics?

Who is this mysterious "you"?


Programming can
get highly tactical (although it's more like poker in it's tactics -
you play the person, and you have incomplete information)

Poker has hidden cards, whereas in chess,
everything is out in the open; this makes
the two games quite different in nature.


Methinks you like being a sockpuppet.

You probably went wrong at the very first word
in that sentence. In chess, you went wrong
when you sat down to play... .


-- help bot

On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 17:23:23 -0700 (PDT), help bot
wrote:

On Jul 12, 10:47 am, Patrick Volk wrote:
On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 18:24:23 -0700 (PDT), help bot

At move 6, I think it was, my Firefox freezed again.

The bug which prevented GC from loading
its Java applet has been corrected. Maybe
your system is just messed up?

I must be getting twice stupid every time by carrying on playing
against this thing, can't explain any other way why I bothered to
return.

Try this experiment: read some of Dr.
IMnes' postings to rgc; if they now seem
to make sense to you, you have indeed
been dumbed-down just as you suspect.

So, now we're down to blaming the user.

Sanny asserted that the user's problem
was caused by him having too many
browsers open at the same time-- a mere
guess, IMO.

Based on what? That nobody else had a problem?



System is messed up or too
many windows. Yep, good business practice, with good programming
practice.

Standard business practice? "Call tech
support"/ "As the software is free, we don't
provide tech support", etc.

After 30 free games, you pay. Sanny also I think is trying to get
advertisement.

How is that free?



You think chess is the only game in town with tactics?

Who is this mysterious "you"?


Programming can
get highly tactical (although it's more like poker in it's tactics -
you play the person, and you have incomplete information)

Poker has hidden cards, whereas in chess,
everything is out in the open; this makes
the two games quite different in nature.

What do you think incomplete information means?




Methinks you like being a sockpuppet.

You probably went wrong at the very first word
in that sentence. In chess, you went wrong
when you sat down to play... .

I wasn't aware I was playing chess at the moment.



-- help bot

*Standard business practice? *"Call tech
support"/ "As the software is free, we don't
provide tech support", etc.

*After 30 free games, you pay. Sanny also I think is trying to get
advertisement.

To Correct that now you can play 120 Games for free. After playing 120
games I want that atleast now he should pay for the benefits he gets.

There are many costs Development/ Mantance/ Legal and many other to
make the GetClub Program up Running. So I want good players to pay
$5.00 for 3 months Subsctiption. Is this rate high?

$5.00 for 120 Chess games (3 months Subscription) is very decent I
suppose.

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html