while recently serving as a bagger at the local co-op [2 hours month
required all members]

i encountered a guy with a big chess diagram on his t-shirt

'that a position from the modern?' i asked

'no' he replied, and paused, since mine was an educated mistake, but an
informed mistake!

'its from the leningrad dutch' he said

from which we well into conversation on chess

i suppose there are other ways to meet other chess players who are not
obviously such - they being not playing the game at the time of encounter -
and i wonder what anecdotes others here have of encountering the like of
such as we?

cordially, phil innes

On Oct 8, 4:21*pm, "Chess One" wrote:


from which we well into conversation on chess

Did you tell him about your summer in Europe where you would have
earned the IM title if you weren't stoned in the back of the van all
the time?

On Oct 9, 8:17*am, SBD wrote:
On Oct 8, 4:21*pm, "Chess One" wrote:

Did you tell him about your summer in Europe where you would have
earned the IM title if you weren't stoned in the back of the van all
the time?

I played in the first Chess Festival in Avoine, France in 1985. In one
game I had a tricky ending the exchange down. I went and spoke to the
only other English players: can you guess?
Glenn Flear and Tony Kosten! Why did they play so much in France? I
showed them the ending. They were like my seconds. Flear said I was
going to get squeezed. Another player there was Dizdarevic. Flear
showed me and Kosten the well-known game Dizdarevic-Miles, where Miles
played Bb7-f3 and then Bxg2. Kosten said that if he had black against
Dizdarebic he would play the Queen's Indian.
I had a really good time. Flear and Kosten are very nice blokes.
Alan

Chess One wrote:
while recently serving as a bagger at the local co-op [2 hours month
required all members]

i encountered a guy with a big chess diagram on his t-shirt

'that a position from the modern?' i asked

'no' he replied, and paused, since mine was an educated mistake, but
an informed mistake!

'its from the leningrad dutch' he said

from which we well into conversation on chess

i suppose there are other ways to meet other chess players who are not
obviously such - they being not playing the game at the time of
encounter - and i wonder what anecdotes others here have of
encountering the like of such as we?

When I meet the likes of such as you, even if they not be playing the
game at time of encounter, I turn around and run as fast as I can.


cordially, phil innes

On Oct 9, 2:17*am, SBD wrote:
On Oct 8, 4:21*pm, "Chess One" wrote:

from which we well into conversation on chess

Did you tell him about your summer in Europe where you would have
earned the IM title if you weren't stoned in the back of the van all
the time?

I thought he was 'legless' on vodka.

"The Historian" wrote in message
...
On Oct 9, 2:17 am, SBD wrote:
On Oct 8, 4:21 pm, "Chess One" wrote:

from which we well into conversation on chess

Did you tell him about your summer in Europe where you would have
earned the IM title if you weren't stoned in the back of the van all
the time?

I thought he was 'legless' on vodka.

**It was a woman, Neil. That has provided 'perk' to many men - as you may
yet discover.

As for SBD he never even heard of Swabisch even though he lived in Germany -
he even suggested to me the 'right spelling' of it [ROFL]

A grad student recently told me of his colleague from Swabia, how he
couldn't understand him in his Frankfurt Univ, so they spoke in English.

What you 'thought' was wrong -and you should have thought woman and her VW
beetle, though these sorts of thoughts occur mostly to men of a certain
experience, and we are much projected upon by 'men' of uncertain anything -
even virgins speculate just like that! I think you can understand this from
your limited experience, nein?

Phil Innes

On Oct 13, 2:41*pm, "Chess One" wrote:
"The Historian" wrote in message

...
On Oct 9, 2:17 am, SBD wrote:

On Oct 8, 4:21 pm, "Chess One" wrote:

from which we well into conversation on chess

Did you tell him about your summer in Europe where you would have
earned the IM title if you weren't stoned in the back of the van all
the time?

I thought he was 'legless' on vodka.


P Innes wrote:
**It was a woman, Neil.

The "legless on vodka" referred to you during your chess 'career'
earning the Nearly an IM 2450 title on the Eurotrash coffeehouse
circuit.

"Offramp" wrote in message
...
On Oct 9, 8:17 am, SBD wrote:
On Oct 8, 4:21 pm, "Chess One" wrote:

Did you tell him about your summer in Europe where you would have
earned the IM title if you weren't stoned in the back of the van all
the time?

I played in the first Chess Festival in Avoine, France in 1985. In one
game I had a tricky ending the exchange down. I went and spoke to the
only other English players: can you guess?
Glenn Flear and Tony Kosten! Why did they play so much in France?

**It was cheap to nip across the channel and to get to Paris, all you needed
was a buddy there to put you up. I played in Paris in the early seventies
[stayed in the working class outskirts East of city on the Marne, and then
later lieved and played in Germany. Besides, where else to go? Holland or
Begium is easy by ferry, anywhere between Ostende and the German border at
Aachen - but school boy French argued for Paris since relying on
kind-hearted Dutch to speak English was uncertain.

I
showed them the ending. They were like my seconds. Flear said I was
going to get squeezed. Another player there was Dizdarevic. Flear
showed me and Kosten the well-known game Dizdarevic-Miles, where Miles
played Bb7-f3 and then Bxg2.

**Um, is that an English Defence? Keene Plaskett and Tisdall published their
title in 87, and they might have well as called it Tony's Defence [or
actually, attack! since it seemed to be the predominant pioneer] Did you,
BTW look at Keene's chess bio of Miles?

**I was in Europe some 10 years before your time, and when GMs, even IMs
were hardly yet invented - never went East across the border of course since
that was the Wall! though there was talk of it in the late 60's. Our
team-captain was P H Clarke and he got to play Ivkov - and there was an
absurd idea of taking seconds with him [in this case, thirds or fifths even,
for sure we would have been of no use to Clarke] though naturally nothing
came of it but good resolutions.

Kosten said that if he had black against
Dizdarebic he would play the Queen's Indian.
I had a really good time. Flear and Kosten are very nice blokes.

**I note a Flear-Plaskett game in the Brit Champ 82 in the Eng Def [p. 58]
where Glen uncorks 17. d5 !! "a brilliant solution that shatters Black's
dreams". Kosten doesn't seem to have messed with the Eng Def at that time -
even though he would 'mess' with the QI. Lots of annotation by Basman, and
who is this Huntingdon player, P. Dansey [for 16. Nf4!] and other moves, as
well as Leicester player Otto Hardy who seems like a major contributor to
this line of the Eng D? I also assume that Maggeramov is not an English
player.

**Strangest game I've played for a couple of years was on a park bench where
I was being presented with a chess set by a Russian master, previously used
by 5 world champs, and so i immediately proposed playing a game with it -
and because we didn't have a board we decided to play without one. Wasn't a
bad game, and we drew in about 30 moves wothjout too much disgrace to either
of us - he had won the exchange, then lost it back to me, and we gave up
before disgracing ourselves further.

Cordially, Phil


Alan