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An American woman has already withdrawn from the World Championship citing
the danger of its current 'protection' by Russia. The EU Chess head has dismissed that as 'politics' [read recent Chessbase report] rather than the fear of being bombed which the women actually cited. The women Maia Chiburdanidze, Lela Javakhishvili, Sopio Gvetadze, Nino Khurtsidze, Maia Lomineishvili, Sopiko Khukhashvili all co-signed a letter of dismay. I have some contacts who report here and there on this material - but it is difficult, naturally, to isolate significance of chess, when there is danger to all inhabitant. Try checking BBC who are on-scene, and make daily reports. Here is the latest AP report: ASSOCIATED PRESS 11:23 a.m. August 15, 2008 MOSCOW - The Interfax news agency says the women's national chess team in Georgia is refusing to play in the World Women's Chess Championship because it will be held in Russia. The team's refusal stems from the conflict between Georgia and Russia over the breakaway region of South Ossetia. Interfax quoted Maya Lomineishvili, a member of the team, as saying it is not boycotting the championship, but rather refusing to play in Russia. The tournament is scheduled to begin in two weeks in Nalchik, Russia, about 100 kilometers (60 miles) from the South Ossetian border. Boris Kutin, president of the European Chess Federation, says on the event's Web site that he cannot see an alternative to holding the event as planned. Source: http://www.signonsandiego.com/ Phil Innes "George Orwell" wrote in message ... GM Gaprindashvili is in trouble as a result of the Georgia conflict!!!!! Somebody please find out!!!! Oh my dear god!!!!!!!!!!! Il mittente di questo messaggio|The sender address of this non corrisponde ad un utente |message is not related to a real reale ma all'indirizzo fittizio|person but to a fake address of an di un sistema anonimizzatore |anonymous system Per maggiori informazioni |For more info https://www.mixmaster.it |
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I see that UN relief workers have all been evacuated from Gori as too
dangerous - apparently after the UN people suffered 2 armed car-jackings they pulled everyone out. It is rather extraordinary therefore that the top EU Chess Official 'cannot see any alternative' to continuing the event there. I wonder if he can see Paris from where he is? Phil Innes "Chess One" wrote in message . .. An American woman has already withdrawn from the World Championship citing the danger of its current 'protection' by Russia. The EU Chess head has dismissed that as 'politics' [read recent Chessbase report] rather than the fear of being bombed which the women actually cited. The women Maia Chiburdanidze, Lela Javakhishvili, Sopio Gvetadze, Nino Khurtsidze, Maia Lomineishvili, Sopiko Khukhashvili all co-signed a letter of dismay. I have some contacts who report here and there on this material - but it is difficult, naturally, to isolate significance of chess, when there is danger to all inhabitant. Try checking BBC who are on-scene, and make daily reports. Here is the latest AP report: ASSOCIATED PRESS 11:23 a.m. August 15, 2008 MOSCOW - The Interfax news agency says the women's national chess team in Georgia is refusing to play in the World Women's Chess Championship because it will be held in Russia. The team's refusal stems from the conflict between Georgia and Russia over the breakaway region of South Ossetia. Interfax quoted Maya Lomineishvili, a member of the team, as saying it is not boycotting the championship, but rather refusing to play in Russia. The tournament is scheduled to begin in two weeks in Nalchik, Russia, about 100 kilometers (60 miles) from the South Ossetian border. Boris Kutin, president of the European Chess Federation, says on the event's Web site that he cannot see an alternative to holding the event as planned. Source: http://www.signonsandiego.com/ Phil Innes "George Orwell" wrote in message ... GM Gaprindashvili is in trouble as a result of the Georgia conflict!!!!! Somebody please find out!!!! Oh my dear god!!!!!!!!!!! Il mittente di questo messaggio|The sender address of this non corrisponde ad un utente |message is not related to a real reale ma all'indirizzo fittizio|person but to a fake address of an di un sistema anonimizzatore |anonymous system Per maggiori informazioni |For more info https://www.mixmaster.it |
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Chess One wrote:
I see that UN relief workers have all been evacuated from Gori as too dangerous - apparently after the UN people suffered 2 armed car-jackings they pulled everyone out. It is rather extraordinary therefore that the top EU Chess Official 'cannot see any alternative' to continuing the event there. I wonder if he can see Paris from where he is? Phil Innes "Chess One" wrote in message . .. An American woman has already withdrawn from the World Championship citing the danger of its current 'protection' by Russia. The EU Chess head has dismissed that as 'politics' [read recent Chessbase report] rather than the fear of being bombed which the women actually cited. The women Maia Chiburdanidze, Lela Javakhishvili, Sopio Gvetadze, Nino Khurtsidze, Maia Lomineishvili, Sopiko Khukhashvili all co-signed a letter of dismay. I have some contacts who report here and there on this material - but it is difficult, naturally, to isolate significance of chess, when there is danger to all inhabitant. Try checking BBC who are on-scene, and make daily reports. Here is the latest AP report: ASSOCIATED PRESS 11:23 a.m. August 15, 2008 MOSCOW - The Interfax news agency says the women's national chess team in Georgia is refusing to play in the World Women's Chess Championship because it will be held in Russia. The team's refusal stems from the conflict between Georgia and Russia over the breakaway region of South Ossetia. Interfax quoted Maya Lomineishvili, a member of the team, as saying it is not boycotting the championship, but rather refusing to play in Russia. The tournament is scheduled to begin in two weeks in Nalchik, Russia, about 100 kilometers (60 miles) from the South Ossetian border. Boris Kutin, president of the European Chess Federation, says on the event's Web site that he cannot see an alternative to holding the event as planned. Source: http://www.signonsandiego.com/ Phil Innes "George Orwell" wrote in message ... GM Gaprindashvili is in trouble as a result of the Georgia conflict!!!!! Somebody please find out!!!! Oh my dear god!!!!!!!!!!! Il mittente di questo messaggio|The sender address of this non corrisponde ad un utente |message is not related to a real reale ma all'indirizzo fittizio|person but to a fake address of an di un sistema anonimizzatore |anonymous system Per maggiori informazioni |For more info https://www.mixmaster.it I certainly agree that chess players should not be expected to play where there is a likelihood of bullets flying or bombs falling. If it were my call, I would look seriously at canceling the event. There is a delicate line to be observed here though. Do we as chess players take sides on the politics of war? I have tried to learn a bit more about the conflict. It looks fairly complex to me. There are multiple sides with varying agendas. I am not going to go into that here. However, here is a more biased and confrontational approach to international politics by gamers. Is this appropriate? http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...ce-889287.html -- "Do that which is right..." Rev. J.D. Walker |
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J.D. Walker wrote:
Chess One wrote: I see that UN relief workers have all been evacuated from Gori as too dangerous - apparently after the UN people suffered 2 armed car-jackings they pulled everyone out. It is rather extraordinary therefore that the top EU Chess Official 'cannot see any alternative' to continuing the event there. I wonder if he can see Paris from where he is? Phil Innes "Chess One" wrote in message . .. An American woman has already withdrawn from the World Championship citing the danger of its current 'protection' by Russia. The EU Chess head has dismissed that as 'politics' [read recent Chessbase report] rather than the fear of being bombed which the women actually cited. The women Maia Chiburdanidze, Lela Javakhishvili, Sopio Gvetadze, Nino Khurtsidze, Maia Lomineishvili, Sopiko Khukhashvili all co-signed a letter of dismay. I have some contacts who report here and there on this material - but it is difficult, naturally, to isolate significance of chess, when there is danger to all inhabitant. Try checking BBC who are on-scene, and make daily reports. Here is the latest AP report: ASSOCIATED PRESS 11:23 a.m. August 15, 2008 MOSCOW - The Interfax news agency says the women's national chess team in Georgia is refusing to play in the World Women's Chess Championship because it will be held in Russia. The team's refusal stems from the conflict between Georgia and Russia over the breakaway region of South Ossetia. Interfax quoted Maya Lomineishvili, a member of the team, as saying it is not boycotting the championship, but rather refusing to play in Russia. The tournament is scheduled to begin in two weeks in Nalchik, Russia, about 100 kilometers (60 miles) from the South Ossetian border. Boris Kutin, president of the European Chess Federation, says on the event's Web site that he cannot see an alternative to holding the event as planned. Source: http://www.signonsandiego.com/ Phil Innes "George Orwell" wrote in message ... GM Gaprindashvili is in trouble as a result of the Georgia conflict!!!!! Somebody please find out!!!! Oh my dear god!!!!!!!!!!! Il mittente di questo messaggio|The sender address of this non corrisponde ad un utente |message is not related to a real reale ma all'indirizzo fittizio|person but to a fake address of an di un sistema anonimizzatore |anonymous system Per maggiori informazioni |For more info https://www.mixmaster.it I certainly agree that chess players should not be expected to play where there is a likelihood of bullets flying or bombs falling. If it were my call, I would look seriously at canceling the event. There is a delicate line to be observed here though. Do we as chess players take sides on the politics of war? I have tried to learn a bit more about the conflict. It looks fairly complex to me. There are multiple sides with varying agendas. I am not going to go into that here. However, here is a more biased and confrontational approach to international politics by gamers. Is this appropriate? http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...ce-889287.html From the US State Dept. travel advisory, it seems that it's a rather lawless, very dangerous place. Ir a US player were kidnapped for ransom, could/would the USCF pay to get her back? :-) Rhetorical question. |
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"J.D. Walker" wrote in message . .. I certainly agree that chess players should not be expected to play where there is a likelihood of bullets flying or bombs falling. If it were my call, I would look seriously at canceling the event. BBC world news said today that even Ukraine is apprehensive about developments. Russian are /withdrawing/ but to no schedule, and the withdrawal is of ground troops. There is a delicate line to be observed here though. Do we as chess players take sides on the politics of war? Only if we want to. But I note the group of women were not addressing politics at all, but bombs. They didn't seem to care whose bombs they were. Bombs and bombers being somewhat apolitical objects to the bombee. Phil Innes I have tried to learn a bit more about the conflict. It looks fairly complex to me. There are multiple sides with varying agendas. I am not going to go into that here. However, here is a more biased and confrontational approach to international politics by gamers. Is this appropriate? http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...ce-889287.html -- "Do that which is right..." Rev. J.D. Walker |
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Chess One wrote:
"J.D. Walker" wrote in message . .. I certainly agree that chess players should not be expected to play where there is a likelihood of bullets flying or bombs falling. If it were my call, I would look seriously at canceling the event. BBC world news said today that even Ukraine is apprehensive about developments. Russian are /withdrawing/ but to no schedule, and the withdrawal is of ground troops. Unfortunately the situation is too volatile to be ameliorated solely by actions of the Russians. There are more players involved. From the US alternative press I see this statement: "Georgia’s President Mikheil Saakashvili bombed the South Ossetian capital of Tskhinvali in an effort to destroy the autonomous government and occupy the city with tanks." http://www.counterpunch.org/leupp08182008.html Georgia's military is trained and supplied by the West. If our lame duck president decides on one last military adventure before leaving office, we may end up talking about NATO bombing runs, and worse. Still, all of this is more support for the advisability of canceling the chess event. There is a delicate line to be observed here though. Do we as chess players take sides on the politics of war? Only if we want to. But I note the group of women were not addressing politics at all, but bombs. They didn't seem to care whose bombs they were. Bombs and bombers being somewhat apolitical objects to the bombee. Phil Innes I have tried to learn a bit more about the conflict. It looks fairly complex to me. There are multiple sides with varying agendas. I am not going to go into that here. However, here is a more biased and confrontational approach to international politics by gamers. Is this appropriate? http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...ce-889287.html -- "Do that which is right..." Rev. J.D. Walker |
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"J.D. Walker" wrote in message . .. Chess One wrote: "J.D. Walker" wrote in message . .. I certainly agree that chess players should not be expected to play where there is a likelihood of bullets flying or bombs falling. If it were my call, I would look seriously at canceling the event. BBC world news said today that even Ukraine is apprehensive about developments. Russian are /withdrawing/ but to no schedule, and the withdrawal is of ground troops. Unfortunately the situation is too volatile to be ameliorated solely by actions of the Russians. There are more players involved. From the US alternative press I see this statement: "Georgia’s President Mikheil Saakashvili bombed the South Ossetian capital of Tskhinvali in an effort to destroy the autonomous government and occupy the city with tanks." http://www.counterpunch.org/leupp08182008.html Georgia's military is trained and supplied by the West. If our lame duck president decides on one last military adventure before leaving office, we may end up talking about NATO bombing runs, and worse. Still, all of this is more support for the advisability of canceling the chess event. Yes - I think this can be the only sensible option considering the most evident denial of the Rulers - it does not seem to be any measured assessment of the risk, but instead an exhortation to flock together, no matter what. Meanwhile we get to read more of the Leader's comments [I offer today's speech below]. The only note I make is that he continues to say sport & politics, rather than mention bombs as such. Personally I feel the women are completely /apolitical/ since they do not care whose bombs fall on them. While they may conclude with the Leader's parting sentiment that we are "one family", I further presume they will not voluntarily flock to join a family of over-enthusiastic idiots. Phil Innes --- Dear chess friends, During last several days I have received a number of letters, including an open letter from six Georgian chess players in respect of a possible change of a venue and dates of the World Women's Chess Championship. As you know, the championship is scheduled to take place from 28 August to 18 September in Nalchik, capital of Kabardino Balkaria. I have already expressed my opinion several days ago. I reiterate: we should not mix sports and politics, and should not involve FIDE into various disputes and arguments. Once again I express most sincere condolences to all victims of humanitarian catastrophy. As a response of the Georgian Chess Federation I would like to note that there are not any grounds for such a change. The Organisers have undertaken all necessary steps and carried out a good preparation and are ready to host all the guests. It is not their fault that blood was shed. We can't help taking into consideration interests of other participants, who purchased the tickets and are practically on the way to the venue of the tournament. But, first and foremost, interests of lots of admirers of talent of chess players should not suffer, as they are looking forward to the start of the Championship. I fully realise all complexity of this situation, I call on all participants, trainers, officials, guests and journalists - all without any exception - to come to Nalchik and show in fact, and not in words - that we are one family. Gens Una Sumus Kirsan Ilyumzhinov President There is a delicate line to be observed here though. Do we as chess players take sides on the politics of war? Only if we want to. But I note the group of women were not addressing politics at all, but bombs. They didn't seem to care whose bombs they were. Bombs and bombers being somewhat apolitical objects to the bombee. Phil Innes I have tried to learn a bit more about the conflict. It looks fairly complex to me. There are multiple sides with varying agendas. I am not going to go into that here. However, here is a more biased and confrontational approach to international politics by gamers. Is this appropriate? http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...ce-889287.html -- "Do that which is right..." Rev. J.D. Walker |
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On Aug 20, 3:31*pm, "Chess One" wrote:
Yes - I think this can be the only sensible option considering the most evident denial of the Rulers - it does not seem to be any measured assessment of the risk, but instead an exhortation to flock together, no matter what. Meanwhile we get to read more of the Leader's comments [I offer today's speech below]. The only note I make is that he continues to say sport & politics, rather than mention bombs as such. Personally I feel the women are completely /apolitical/ since they do not care whose bombs fall on them. While they may conclude with the Leader's parting sentiment that we are "one family", I further presume they will not voluntarily flock to join a family of over-enthusiastic idiots. Phil Innes --- Dear chess friends, During last several days I have received a number of *letters, including an open letter from six Georgian chess players in respect of *a possible change of a venue and dates of the World Women's Chess Championship. *As you know, the championship is scheduled to take place from 28 August to 18 *September in Nalchik, capital of Kabardino Balkaria. I have already *expressed my opinion several days ago. I reiterate: we should not mix sports and politics, and should not involve FIDE into various disputes and arguments. Once *again I express most sincere condolences to all victims of humanitarian *catastrophy. As a response of the Georgian Chess Federation I would like *to note that there are not any grounds for such a change. The Organisers have *undertaken all necessary steps and carried out a good preparation and are ready *to host all the guests. It is not their fault that blood was shed. We can't help *taking into consideration interests of other participants, who purchased the *tickets and are practically on the way to the venue of the tournament. But, *first and foremost, interests of lots of admirers of talent of chess players *should not suffer, as they are looking forward to the start of the Championship. I fully realise all complexity of this situation, I call on all participants, trainers, officials, guests and journalists - all without any exception - to come to Nalchik and show in fact, and not in words - that we are *one family. Gens Una Sumus Kirsan *Ilyumzhinov President I'll go, but only if I have the guarantee that Kirsan's saucer aliens will protect me! |
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THIS CRAZY WORLD OF CHESS by GM Larry Evans (page 163)
I'll go, but only if I have the guarantee that Kirsan's saucer aliens will protect me! -- Javert If you want the truth about this tyrant whose autobiography contains a chapter heading like "It Only Takes Two Weeks to Have a Man Killed," check out Planet Kirsan in the New Yorker (April 24, 2006). Kirsan claims to have the ability to communicate with aliens after having been aboard a U.F.O. and he is still a great admirer of Saddam Hussein. Javert wrote: On Aug 20, 3:31?pm, "Chess One" wrote: Yes - I think this can be the only sensible option considering the most evident denial of the Rulers - it does not seem to be any measured assessment of the risk, but instead an exhortation to flock together, no matter what. Meanwhile we get to read more of the Leader's comments [I offer today's speech below]. The only note I make is that he continues to say sport & politics, rather than mention bombs as such. Personally I feel the women are completely /apolitical/ since they do not care whose bombs fall on them. While they may conclude with the Leader's parting sentiment that we are "one family", I further presume they will not voluntarily flock to join a family of over-enthusiastic idiots. Phil Innes --- Dear chess friends, During last several days I have received a number of ?letters, including an open letter from six Georgian chess players in respect of ?a possible change of a venue and dates of the World Women's Chess Championship. ?As you know, the championship is scheduled to take place from 28 August to 18 ?September in Nalchik, capital of Kabardino Balkaria. I have already ?expressed my opinion several days ago. I reiterate: we should not mix sports and politics, and should not involve FIDE into various disputes and arguments. Once ?again I express most sincere condolences to all victims of humanitarian ?catastrophy. As a response of the Georgian Chess Federation I would like ?to note that there are not any grounds for such a change. The Organisers have ?undertaken all necessary steps and carried out a good preparation and are ready ?to host all the guests. It is not their fault that blood was shed. We can't help ?taking into consideration interests of other participants, who purchased the ?tickets and are practically on the way to the venue of the tournament. But, ?first and foremost, interests of lots of admirers of talent of chess players ?should not suffer, as they are looking forward to the start of the Championship. I fully realise all complexity of this situation, I call on all participants, trainers, officials, guests and journalists - all without any exception - to come to Nalchik and show in fact, and not in words - that we are ?one family. Gens Una Sumus Kirsan ?Ilyumzhinov President I'll go, but only if I have the guarantee that Kirsan's saucer aliens will protect me! |
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"Javert" wrote in message ... On Aug 20, 3:31 pm, "Chess One" wrote: I'll go, but only if I have the guarantee that Kirsan's saucer aliens will protect me! -- **You know, he not only met the aliens, he liked them. He liked them much more than he liked democracy. Not that in a 100% approval democratic state that is any problem. He also [I read ahead, and saw Larry's mention of the New Yorker article] likes the Dalai Lama and Genghis Khan, pretty much equally. A 'complex' character some would say. Compos sui, non consilio, impetu, consuetedo quasi altera natura. Crescit amor nummi quantum ipsa pecunia crescit. // [With apologies to Juvenal] Nil magnum nisi bonum. [nothing is great unless good] Phil Innes |
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