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Old November 22nd 05, 07:55 PM posted to rec.games.chess.analysis
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In a Tarrasch French!!

The machine just whacked the poor slob GM.

No endgame required!



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Old November 22nd 05, 10:31 PM posted to rec.games.chess.analysis
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Ray Gordon wrote:
In a Tarrasch French!!

The machine just whacked the poor slob GM.

No endgame required!


Please select your reply from the following options:

A) When and where did this happen?
B) Please post the game, or a link to it.
C) I guess that proves that the Tarrasch French is a good opening
for... which side was the computer playing?
D) This must be Ray Gordon's attempt to prove that opening study is
more important than endgame study.
E) Please post a link to pictures proving that the GM is a slob.



(Smiley face included as an aid to the humor impaired)

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Old November 23rd 05, 07:22 AM posted to rec.games.chess.analysis
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In article , Ray Gordon
writes
In a Tarrasch French!!

The machine just whacked the poor slob GM.

No endgame required!



And the 'poor slob GM' whacked Fritz9 in round 2!
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Old November 23rd 05, 10:03 AM posted to rec.games.chess.analysis
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Eric Hallsworth wrote:
Ray Gordon writes
In a Tarrasch French!!

The machine just whacked the poor slob GM.


And the 'poor slob GM' whacked Fritz9 in round 2!


Huh? The game Ray is referring to is Hydra-Ponomariov in round 2.
Kasimdzhanov played Fritz in round 2 and was only able to draw. This is
the only one of the six games so far that wasn't won by the computer.


Dave.

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Old November 23rd 05, 10:05 AM posted to rec.games.chess.analysis
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Ray Gordon wrote:
In a Tarrasch French!!

The machine just whacked the poor slob GM.

No endgame required!


Ponomariov's 12... Kd7?! 13... Kc7 18... Kb7? (moving the king onto an
open file) looked deeply, deeply dubious. I wonder what he thought the
advantages were because, to a patzer like me, it looks like he spent three
moves putting his king in the most dangerous part of the board. He must
have felt there was some compensation for this somewhere.


Dave.

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Old November 23rd 05, 10:06 AM posted to rec.games.chess.analysis
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ha scritto nel messaggio
ups.com...
Ray Gordon wrote:
In a Tarrasch French!!

The machine just whacked the poor slob GM.

No endgame required!


Please select your reply from the following options:


I'm a weak FM from Italy but I try to answer

A) When and where did this happen?


http://www.ajedrezbilbao.com/FestivalEN.htm

B) Please post the game, or a link to it.


[Event "2nd Man Machine"]
[Site "Bilbao ESP"]
[Date "2005.11.22"]
[Round "3"]
[White "HYDRA"]
[Black "Ponomariov,R"]
[Result "1-0"]
[BlackElo "2704"]
[EventDate "2005.11.20"]
[ECO "C06"]

1. d4 e6 2. e4 d5 3. Nd2 Nf6 4. e5 Nfd7 5. Bd3 c5 6. c3 Nc6 7. Ne2 a5 8.
O-O c4 9. Bc2 b5 10. b3 Nb6 11. bxc4 bxc4 12. Rb1 Kd7 13. Nf4 Kc7 14. Qf3
Rb8 15. Nh5 Qe7 16. Re1 Ba6 17. Qg3 g6 18. Nf6 Kb7 19. Nde4 Ka7 20. Nd6 Nc8
21. Ba3 Rxb1 22. Rxb1 Nxd6 23. Bc5+ Ka8 24. Ba4 Bb7 25. exd6 Qxf6 26. Bxc6
Bxc6 27. d7 Bxc5 28. Qc7 e5 29. dxc5 1-0

C) I guess that proves that the Tarrasch French is a good opening
for... which side was the computer playing?


It's good as many black openings, computer is playing white.

D) This must be Ray Gordon's attempt to prove that opening study is
more important than endgame study.


Also Anand says it's true

E) Please post a link to pictures proving that the GM is a slob.


Sorry for my poor english, but I don't know what slob means...

Luigi Caselli


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Old November 23rd 05, 10:16 AM posted to rec.games.chess.analysis
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"David Richerby" ha scritto nel messaggio
...
Eric Hallsworth wrote:
Ray Gordon writes
In a Tarrasch French!!

The machine just whacked the poor slob GM.


And the 'poor slob GM' whacked Fritz9 in round 2!


Huh? The game Ray is referring to is Hydra-Ponomariov in round 2.
Kasimdzhanov played Fritz in round 2 and was only able to draw. This is
the only one of the six games so far that wasn't won by the computer.


There are some little errors...

1. Hydra-Ponomariov was in round 3.
2. Kasimdzhanov played Fritz in round 3

Until now after 9 games:
5 wins for computers
3 draws
1 win for humans

Today last round.

Luigi Caselli




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Old November 23rd 05, 10:38 AM posted to rec.games.chess.analysis
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The machine just whacked the poor slob GM.

No endgame required!


Ponomariov's 12... Kd7?! 13... Kc7 18... Kb7? (moving the king onto an
open file) looked deeply, deeply dubious. I wonder what he thought the
advantages were because, to a patzer like me, it looks like he spent three
moves putting his king in the most dangerous part of the board. He must
have felt there was some compensation for this somewhere.


When I see GMs doing that, I refuse to quit training at chess for at least a
little while.

If Hydra can crush them like this, so can a human. We just need to figure
out how Hydra "thinks."



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Old November 23rd 05, 10:45 AM posted to rec.games.chess.analysis
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In article ,
Ray Gordon wrote:

If Hydra can crush them like this, so can a human. We just need to figure
out how Hydra "thinks."


Lots, and very, very quickly!

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Old November 23rd 05, 11:39 AM posted to rec.games.chess.analysis
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Luigi Caselli wrote:
David Richerby wrote:
Huh? The game Ray is referring to is Hydra-Ponomariov in round 2.
Kasimdzhanov played Fritz in round 2 and was only able to draw. This is
the only one of the six games so far that wasn't won by the computer.


There are some little errors...

1. Hydra-Ponomariov was in round 3.
2. Kasimdzhanov played Fritz in round 3


Yes, you're absolutely right -- I must have misread the Chessbase
site. Apologies for the confusion.


Dave.

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