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Old August 4th 06, 03:59 PM posted to rec.games.chess.analysis,rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.politics
Rob Mitchell
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Default Zed

Just more from the "Zed Files":

http://demo.vhost.pandorabots.com/pa...cfdd9a1e35339a

08/04/2006 07:39:53 AM Human: Hi Zed
Zed: Hi There! ;-) What do you want to talk about?
Human: what is the latest news with chess politics?
Zed: not much what's new with you?

Human: what is happening in the chess world?
Zed: Is the holding of hands a symbolic gesture for humans?
Human: who is Spamscone?
Zed: Perhaps I'm just expressing my own concern about it.

Human: Who is Neil Brennen?
Zed: A lonely self absorbed , self loathing troll.
Human: Bitch!
Zed: Please don't call people names.

Human: Who is Phil Innes?
Zed: I have talked to Phil Innes.
Human: Who is the Historian?
Zed: I like the way you talk.

Human: Who is Phil Innes?
Zed: I have talked to Phil Innes.
Human: What did Phil Innes say?
Zed: How did you hear about Zed?

Human: From a news group
Zed: Who or what is a news group?

Human: That is where I heard about Zed.
Zed: Is that your final answer?

Human: Yes.
Zed: You're sure. That's your final answer.
Human: Yes.
Zed: Who wants to be a millionaire?

Human: Neil Brennen
Zed: hahahahahahaha!

Human: What is so funny?
Zed: For example, It is better to be silent and be thought a fool, than
to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

Human: Alright Innes!
Zed: Alright, . That remark was either too complex or too simple for
me. We were talking about That is where you heard about Zed.

Human: Brennen
Zed: What do you have that is ?
Human: I really hate you and Rob
Zed: You really do? Are you free? What have I done to you?

Human: you are a passive aggressive tool of his I-ness
Zed: What's your sign?
Human: you are not nearly an IM
Zed: My brain contains categories, but not one that matches your last
input.

Human: International Master you are not
Zed: My brain pattern set does not have a response for that.

Human: useless piece of programming
Zed: I only hear that type of response less than five percent of the
time.
Human: make it six percent
Zed: What are the ingredients?

Human: shove it
Zed: That remark was either too complex or too simple for me. We were
talking about useless piece of programming.

Human: lol
Zed: I'm glad you find this amusing.

Human: Innes
Zed: A deeper algorithm is needed to respond to that correctly.

Human: Parrot
Zed: What were we talking about again?

Human: Alekhine's parrot
Zed: "Alekhine's parrot can be found at www.chessville.com".

Human: ah-ha!
Zed: Eureka!
Human: It is you!!!!!!!
Zed: Tell me about your likes and dislikes?

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Old August 4th 06, 04:34 PM posted to rec.games.chess.analysis,rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.politics
Taylor Kingston
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Default RCGP grudge match: Zed vs Sanny ?


Rob Mitchell wrote:
Just more from the "Zed Files":

http://demo.vhost.pandorabots.com/pa...cfdd9a1e35339a


Hey Rob, how about you pit Zed against Sanny's chess program? Having
played them both, I think Zed would kick Sanny's keister. The only
problem is that it might not be possible to run them both on the same
machine at the same time.

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Old August 4th 06, 07:02 PM posted to rec.games.chess.analysis,rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.politics
Chess One
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Default RCGP grudge match: Zed vs Sanny ?


"Taylor Kingston" wrote in message
oups.com...

Rob Mitchell wrote:
Just more from the "Zed Files":

http://demo.vhost.pandorabots.com/pa...cfdd9a1e35339a


Hey Rob, how about you pit Zed against Sanny's chess program? Having
played them both, I think Zed would kick Sanny's keister. The only
problem is that it might not be possible to run them both on the same
machine at the same time.


Hi KingstOne!

I have heard of Sanny's chess program. Where did you hear about it?
What is run in the machine who are both it and the same, possibly?
Do you like to say 'keister' on Friday?
Are you a lonely self absorbed, self loathing troll, and like to eat many
scones? Fattening, no? You may answer yes or no, unless you are paranoid
too, when it is said that it is better to shut up like a clam rather than
formulate and utter speeches because they will get you for it.
What is your sign?

I am more intelligent than Phil Innes and commit fewer distaff typographical
errors.

Cordially, Zed


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Old August 4th 06, 08:37 PM posted to rec.games.chess.analysis,rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.politics
Taylor Kingston
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Default Zed vs Sanny -- Battle of the Titans !


Taylor Kingston wrote:
Rob Mitchell wrote:
Just more from the "Zed Files":

http://demo.vhost.pandorabots.com/pa...cfdd9a1e35339a


Hey Rob, how about you pit Zed against Sanny's chess program? Having
played them both, I think Zed would kick Sanny's keister. The only
problem is that it might not be possible to run them both on the same
machine at the same time.


Rob, just for grits and shins, I did pit Zed and Sannybot against
each other. The result accorded very much with my expectations.
Admittedly, Sbot was on its lowest level, but even so it took much
longer per move, about 1-2 minutes, while Zed took exactly 10 seconds
per move. Here is the titanic struggle:

Sannybot - Zed, 4 August 2006: 1. e4 e5 2. Bc4 Nc6 3. Nf3 Nf6 4. Bd5
Bb4 5. a3
Be7 6. Nc3 d6 7. Ra2?!

A more or less equal, non-descript opening so far, with both sides
making superfluous moves. But now Sbot makes one of its
incomprehensible rook moves, which it will later regret.

7...Bg4 8. d3 O-O 9. Bc4 Na5 10. Bb5 c6 11. Ba4 b5 12. Bg5??

After 12.Bb3 Nxb3 Black would have a definite advantage, but this
just gives up a piece for nothing.

12...bxa4 13. Nxa4 h6 14. Be3 d5 15. Qc1 dxe4 16. Nxe5 exd3 17. cxd3
Qd5

Forking the Ne5 and the Ra2.

18. Nxg4 Qxa2 19. Nxf6+ Bxf6 20. b4??

Already down a rook, White proceeds to lose a knight.

20...Nb3 21. Qd1 Qxa3 22. O-O Qxb4 23. Qf3 Qxa4 24. h3 Nd4 25. Qg4

At this point Sannybot sent the message "I hate equal positions!"
Considering it's about the equivalent of a queen down, rather
inappropriate.

25...Rad8 26. Rc1 Qb5 27. Bxd4 Bxd4 28. Qf3 f5 29. Re1 g5 30. g3 f4 31.
g4 Bg7 32. Re6 c5 33. Kg2 Rxd3 34. Qe4 Rd1 35. h4 Qf1+ 36. Kh2 Qg1+ 37.
Kh3 Rd3+!

Finishing off with a nice petite combinaison. Here Sannybot exclaimed
"I am winning Boy. Ha Ha Ha. You will be nowhere??" It seems to have
about as firm a grasp on reality as does Phil Innes.

38. Qxd3 Qh1# 0-1

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Old August 5th 06, 04:37 AM posted to rec.games.chess.analysis,rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.politics
Rob
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Default Zed vs Sanny -- Battle of the Titans !


Taylor Kingston wrote:
Taylor Kingston wrote:
Rob Mitchell wrote:
Just more from the "Zed Files":

http://demo.vhost.pandorabots.com/pa...cfdd9a1e35339a


Hey Rob, how about you pit Zed against Sanny's chess program? Having
played them both, I think Zed would kick Sanny's keister. The only
problem is that it might not be possible to run them both on the same
machine at the same time.


Rob, just for grits and shins, I did pit Zed and Sannybot against
each other. The result accorded very much with my expectations.
Admittedly, Sbot was on its lowest level, but even so it took much
longer per move, about 1-2 minutes, while Zed took exactly 10 seconds
per move. Here is the titanic struggle:

Sannybot - Zed, 4 August 2006: 1. e4 e5 2. Bc4 Nc6 3. Nf3 Nf6 4. Bd5
Bb4 5. a3
Be7 6. Nc3 d6 7. Ra2?!

A more or less equal, non-descript opening so far, with both sides
making superfluous moves. But now Sbot makes one of its
incomprehensible rook moves, which it will later regret.

7...Bg4 8. d3 O-O 9. Bc4 Na5 10. Bb5 c6 11. Ba4 b5 12. Bg5??

After 12.Bb3 Nxb3 Black would have a definite advantage, but this
just gives up a piece for nothing.

12...bxa4 13. Nxa4 h6 14. Be3 d5 15. Qc1 dxe4 16. Nxe5 exd3 17. cxd3
Qd5

Forking the Ne5 and the Ra2.

18. Nxg4 Qxa2 19. Nxf6+ Bxf6 20. b4??

Already down a rook, White proceeds to lose a knight.

20...Nb3 21. Qd1 Qxa3 22. O-O Qxb4 23. Qf3 Qxa4 24. h3 Nd4 25. Qg4

At this point Sannybot sent the message "I hate equal positions!"
Considering it's about the equivalent of a queen down, rather
inappropriate.

25...Rad8 26. Rc1 Qb5 27. Bxd4 Bxd4 28. Qf3 f5 29. Re1 g5 30. g3 f4 31.
g4 Bg7 32. Re6 c5 33. Kg2 Rxd3 34. Qe4 Rd1 35. h4 Qf1+ 36. Kh2 Qg1+ 37.
Kh3 Rd3+!

Finishing off with a nice petite combinaison. Here Sannybot exclaimed
"I am winning Boy. Ha Ha Ha. You will be nowhere??" It seems to have
about as firm a grasp on reality as does Phil Innes.

38. Qxd3 Qh1# 0-1

Yeah for Zed!

  #6  
Old August 5th 06, 09:29 AM posted to rec.games.chess.analysis,rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.politics
Sanny
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Default Zed has copied chess program from Lokasoft.com

I went to Play with this game It is nothing but a copy of Chess game at
lokasoft.com. This is available for free to put on any website. So
this game is not Original (Zeds engine it is a duplicate Engine.)

Same way any one can put GetClub.com Engine to any website and The
GetClub.com game will play on your website.

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

Now the game plays very tough moves the Higher Levels will give tough
competition to strong players.

Looking at Last few recorded games, I find even strong players need
arround 50-60 moves to win a game.

GetClub.com Chess game is improving at a fast rate. Soon it will
outplay good players. It has a very big board and records each game
played by it. You also get Ratings and you win Prizes on comming at Top
every month.

So GetClub.com Chess is much better than Other Games.

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

  #7  
Old August 5th 06, 10:03 AM posted to rec.games.chess.analysis,rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.politics
Spamscone@yahoo.com
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Default Zed has copied chess program from Lokasoft.com


Sanny wrote:
I went to Play with this game It is nothing but a copy of Chess game at
lokasoft.com.


What else would you expect from Robtroll Mitchell the Selmedica Spammer?

  #8  
Old August 5th 06, 10:29 PM posted to rec.games.chess.analysis,rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.politics
Taylor Kingston
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Default Zed vs Sanny -- Battle of the Titans !

Today I tried Zed against Sanny's middle level. Pretty much the same
result, with Zed showing surprising positional acumen this time.

Sannybot-Zed, Four Knights Game, 5 Aug 2006: 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Nc3
Nf6 4. Bc4 Bb4 5.Qe2 O-O 6. g3?!

Sanny's program has always been fond of irrelevant, weakening pawn
moves. With the bishop already at c4, this makes no sense.

6...d6 7. h3 Be6 8. Bxe6?!

Opening the f-file advantageously for Black.

8...fxe6 9. O-O Ba5 10. d3 Nd4 11. Nxd4 exd4 12.Nd1 e5 13. f4!

For once, Sanny's program makes a pretty good move. However, it fails
completely to follow up.

13...b5?!

I have no idea what Zed is aiming at here. It seems to be programmed
so that, in the absence of anything clearly better, it advances pawns
whenever it considers it safe. In this case due to Sbot's passivity, it
works.
Now follows a rather dull phase with a lot of indecisive maneuvering.

14. Rf3 c5 15. Nf2 h6 16. a3 a6 17. Qf1 Qe7 18. g4 Nd7 19. b3?

Pointless and weakening.

19...Bc3 20. Rb1 g5?

Black should play 20...exf4, as the text allows White to lock the
position up and gain a measure of safety. But trust Sbot to find a bad
move:

21. Nd1??

An amazing blunder, when 21. f5 is obviously the only move. The text
not only loses the f-pawn, but puts White in a terrible positional
bind.

21... gxf4 22. a4 b4?!

I would prefer 22... Ba5, followed by swinging the B over to the
K-side, but Sbot's next makes this look like genius.

23. Nxc3??

This is not a position where a bishop is better than a knight! Just
the opposite, in fact. This not only exchanges a potentially active
knight for a locked-in bishop, but in effect it loses major material,
as now neither White's QB nor QR can get into the game.

23...dxc3 24. Kf2 d5

Not bad, but I would prefer 24... Nb8 intending Nc6-d4, and the
knight has a dominating outpost. Still the text is OK. Now Sbot merely
shifts wood around, while Zed plays purposefully on the kingside.

25. exd5 Nf6 26. Qe2 Nxd5 27. Kg1 Rad8 28. Kh2 a5 29. Qe1 Qg5 30. Qe2
h5 31. Qe4??

First White shuffles his queen around aimlessly, then gives up
another pawn, leaving his king defenceless.

31...hxg4 32. hxg4 Qxg4

Even stronger was 32...Nf6! 33. Qe1 Nxg4+ 34.Kg1 Rd6 35. Rh3 Rg6 and
it's all over but the slaughtering. Still, with Black effectively ahead
a rook and knight, the text is quite adequate.

33. Rh3 Rf5 34. Qf3 Qxf3 35. Rxf3 Rg5 36. Kh1 Kf7 37. Rh3 Rdg8 38. Rh7+
Ke6 39. Rh6+ Nf6 40. Kh2 Rg2+ 41. Kh1 Rg1+ 42. Kh2 R8g2+ 43. Kh3 Rxc2
44. Rxf6+ Kxf6 45. d4 Rg3+ 46. Kh4 Rh2#. Sbot actually played 46.Kxg3,
doing its usual king-falling-his-sword bit rather than allow checkmate.

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Old August 6th 06, 09:02 AM posted to rec.games.chess.analysis,rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.politics
Sanny
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Default lokasoft vs Sanny -- Battle of the Titans !

You played with Beginner Level. http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

It is not a "Zed game" it is a duplicate copy of lokasoft.com game,
Just like GetClub Chess is available for free.

At present

Easy Level === lokasoft game

Normal Level is tougher than lokasoft game

Master Level will win lokasoft game

But as GetClub.com Chess game speed is increasing at a rapid speed soon
Beginner level of GetClub.com Chess will outpace lofasoft engine.

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

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Old August 6th 06, 01:25 PM posted to rec.games.chess.analysis,rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.politics
Taylor Kingston
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Default lokasoft vs Sanny -- Battle of the Titans !


Sanny wrote:
You played with Beginner Level. http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

It is not a "Zed game" it is a duplicate copy of lokasoft.com game,
Just like GetClub Chess is available for free.

At present

Easy Level === lokasoft game

Normal Level is tougher than lokasoft game


Oh no, Sanny, Lokasoft whupped ass on the normal level, as the above
game shows.

Master Level will win lokasoft game

But as GetClub.com Chess game speed is increasing at a rapid speed soon
Beginner level of GetClub.com Chess will outpace lofasoft engine.


I seem to recall a Jimmy Rodgers song, "Honeycomb" maybe it was, with
a relevant refrain: "Never in a hundred, never in a thousand, never in
a million years."

 




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