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Hi there,
I need some help with evaluating game positions in general. Although my opening is adequate (its doesnt matter really because I play online games where I can use the opening book) and my endgame is pretty good, my middlegame suffers. Very often, after say 15-20 moves I reach a position and I dont really know what to move next. It happens all the time. I always though that strategically, a good middlegame should lead you to an endgame with some advantage (i.e. piece advantage, better pawn structure, positional advantage). I think the reason for this is that I cannod adequately evaluate a give position in the middle game. Take for example the following position from one of my current games: 4r1kq/bpp1nb2/p5p1/2P2pPp/1P1NpP1P/4P3/3N2B1/R3Q1K1 b - - 0 31 Now, black has a pawn advantage. Maybe a little better pawn structure? The white's bishop and the black's bishop are pretty much locked inside the pawn. Also the black's bishop and queen control the two open diagonals but black's king is exposed somewhat. This is my evaluation of the position for both and I think black has a slight advantage. Can someone offer their own evaluation please and help me to understand these kinds of positions. How do you evaluate a middlegame position in general? Thanks V. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 20:02:37 +0100, Vasileios Zografos
wrote: Hi there, I need some help with evaluating game positions in general. Although my opening is adequate (its doesnt matter really because I play online games where I can use the opening book) and my endgame is pretty good, my middlegame suffers. There are books and books about it, of course. But the main thing is to practice and then test your judgements after the game. During the game, evaluate positions. After the game subject your judgements to analysis and modify your evaluation process accordingly. Sorry but there is no royal road to chess judgement, or any other form of judgement for that matter. |
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Chess is not a book you can memorize all rules and win. It comes by
Practise. Play 40-50 Games a month at http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html And soon you will find your Middle game improved many times. First Start beating the Beginner Level Once you start winning the Beginner Level set upwards to Easy, Normal And If you become very good then Try playing with Master Level. Your game will be recorded So you can analyze where you made mistake in that game. Bye Sanny Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html |
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Vasileios Zografos wrote: Hi there, I need some help with evaluating game positions in general. Although my opening is adequate (its doesnt matter really because I play online games where I can use the opening book) and my endgame is pretty good, my middlegame suffers. I know this is off topic but reading your post I had to point out that using books for the first 10/12 moves and being good at the last moves (maybe 5/6) explain why you feel imprepared in what you call the middlegame. And it's not that fair playing online games with a book! Regards. |
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And it's not that fair playing online games with a book! Regards. That is your opinion. But where I play, everyone is using an opening book to play. So actually it is more than fair and keeps everything balanced. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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"Vasileios Zografos" wrote in message .. . And it's not that fair playing online games with a book! Regards. That is your opinion. But where I play, everyone is using an opening book to play. So actually it is more than fair and keeps everything balanced. It is not an opinion - It is downright cheating. |
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Terry wrote:
"Vasileios Zografos" wrote in message .. . And it's not that fair playing online games with a book! Regards. That is your opinion. But where I play, everyone is using an opening book to play. So actually it is more than fair and keeps everything balanced. It is not an opinion - It is downright cheating. No it is not. And you are wrong. Chess books and game/move databases are allowed as they are permitted in correspondence chess too. Everyone who plays (where I do) plays under correspondence chess rules and knows these rules and accepted them beforehand. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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Vasileios Zografos wrote:
Hi there, I need some help with evaluating game positions in general. Although my opening is adequate (its doesnt matter really because I play online games where I can use the opening book) and my endgame is pretty good, my middlegame suffers. Very often, after say 15-20 moves I reach a position and I dont really know what to move next. It happens all the time. I always though that strategically, a good middlegame should lead you to an endgame with some advantage (i.e. piece advantage, better pawn structure, positional advantage). I think the reason for this is that I cannod adequately evaluate a give position in the middle game. Take for example the following position from one of my current games: 4r1kq/bpp1nb2/p5p1/2P2pPp/1P1NpP1P/4P3/3N2B1/R3Q1K1 b - - 0 31 Now, black has a pawn advantage. Maybe a little better pawn structure? The white's bishop and the black's bishop are pretty much locked inside the pawn. Also the black's bishop and queen control the two open diagonals but black's king is exposed somewhat. This is my evaluation of the position for both and I think black has a slight advantage. Can someone offer their own evaluation please and help me to understand these kinds of positions. How do you evaluate a middlegame position in general? Thanks V. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com 1) Unless it is a stated correspondence game, using a book is cheating, so stop. 2) Of course, your fault in your game is first and foremost your lack of ability to formulate a plan. Without a plan, reasonable evaluations are not possible, and play tends to drift. Therefore, I would recommend Jeremy Silman's books Reassess your Chess and The Amateurs Mind. I would also recommend going over well-annotated games (Not Informant Style -those are ****. You want annotated games that give you concepts and ideas in plain language - Botvinniks Best Games, Alekhines best games, etc.) that are in your opening repertoire, and go over no more than two a night (saturation effect). This gives you: 1) some opening ideas/preparation 2) shows transitions into the middlegame (your stated problem) 3) gives you endgames that derive from your openings. What's important is to VISUALIZE the annotated variations in your head - do NOT move the pieces! Keep practicing and practicing looking over these well-annotated games, and you will improve. It's the way of the stone. I would say that black could win this position 7 out of 10 times against equal opposition, the other three being a draw. He has a winning advantage that he must convert. |
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"Vasileios Zografos" wrote in message .. . Terry wrote: "Vasileios Zografos" wrote in message .. . And it's not that fair playing online games with a book! Regards. That is your opinion. But where I play, everyone is using an opening book to play. So actually it is more than fair and keeps everything balanced. It is not an opinion - It is downright cheating. No it is not. And you are wrong. Chess books and game/move databases are allowed as they are permitted in correspondence chess too. Everyone who plays (where I do) plays under correspondence chess rules and knows these rules and accepted them beforehand. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Well, you can just keep being a smart ass and learn nothing or you can listen to these usenet guys and improve your ability to evaluate better. You say using a book is not cheating. Well, ok, good luck with it but you can't expect to understand middlegame concepts if you don't know concepts from the opening and why you played certain moves. If you don't follow the book and you try to play the best move on your own, you will know how to avoid positions that are hard for you to play. Then you will get to the positions you are familiar with and which you can easily evaluate. |
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"Ivan Baricevic" wrote in message ... "Vasileios Zografos" wrote in message .. . Terry wrote: "Vasileios Zografos" wrote in message .. . And it's not that fair playing online games with a book! Regards. That is your opinion. But where I play, everyone is using an opening book to play. So actually it is more than fair and keeps everything balanced. It is not an opinion - It is downright cheating. No it is not. And you are wrong. Chess books and game/move databases are allowed as they are permitted in correspondence chess too. Everyone who plays (where I do) plays under correspondence chess rules and knows these rules and accepted them beforehand. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Well, you can just keep being a smart ass and learn nothing or you can listen to these usenet guys and improve your ability to evaluate better. You say using a book is not cheating. Well, ok, good luck with it but you can't expect to understand middlegame concepts if you don't know concepts from the opening and why you played certain moves. If you don't follow the book and you try to play the best move on your own, you will know how to avoid positions that are hard for you to play. Then you will get to the positions you are familiar with and which you can easily evaluate. Agreed. Regards |
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