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Can Fritz8 beat GetClub Master Level.



 
 
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Old September 18th 07, 12:44 AM posted to rec.games.chess.analysis,rec.games.chess.misc,alt.chess,rec.games.chess.computer,rec.games.chess.politics
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Default Can Fritz8 beat GetClub Master Level.

On Sep 17, 10:45 am, "Thomas T. Veldhouse" wrote:
In rec.games.chess.computer Taylor Kingston wrote:


Sanny, as I said before, I am not wasting any more time with your
silly program. Or on replying to your silly posts.


You just did :-)


Say, do you suppose that Sanny's program is just
getting too strong for Zeb/Taylor Kingston to handle?
What with all the thousands of "improvements", the
ply depth of search extending beyond what one can
count on the fingers of one hand, and the opening
book -- it is a wonder that any of us have managed
to best Sanny's program this long. Even IM Innes,
armed to the teeth with the latest version of Rybka,
has disappeared. I think the strength of Sanny's
program is to blame; those who can't stand the heat,
soon leave the kitchen.


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Old September 18th 07, 05:09 PM posted to rec.games.chess.analysis,rec.games.chess.misc,alt.chess,rec.games.chess.computer,rec.games.chess.politics
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Default Can Fritz8 beat GetClub Master Level.

One piece of feedback, though:

Your 'Easy' mode advertises 10-20 second moves... yet in my games, it
regularly took longer than 20 seconds to make a decision.


You have read wrong.

Beginner: 10-20 sec/move
Easy : 30-40 sec/move
Normal: 1-2 min/move
Master: 5-10 min/move

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html




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Old September 18th 07, 09:34 PM posted to rec.games.chess.analysis,rec.games.chess.misc,alt.chess,rec.games.chess.computer,rec.games.chess.politics
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Default Can Fritz8 beat GetClub Master Level.

On Sep 18, 11:09 am, Sanny wrote:
One piece of feedback, though:


Your 'Easy' mode advertises 10-20 second moves... yet in my games, it
regularly took longer than 20 seconds to make a decision.


You have read wrong.

Beginner: 10-20 sec/move
Easy : 30-40 sec/move
Normal: 1-2 min/move
Master: 5-10 min/move

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at:http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html


I've got a screen capture of your game on beginner level taking 144
seconds to make a move... It actually took longer, I just got tired of
Screen Capturing It's following move, it took 48 seconds...

If you'd like, I'll e-mail you the shot.

TrekNoid

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Old September 18th 07, 10:55 PM posted to rec.games.chess.analysis,rec.games.chess.misc,alt.chess,rec.games.chess.computer,rec.games.chess.politics
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Default Can Fritz8 beat GetClub Master Level.

On Sep 17, 4:30 pm, Taylor Kingston wrote:

Nonsense. Yesterday afternoon I started a game between your program
and Fritz8. GetClub moved so slowly I could not finish the game until
this morning, but essentially the game was over by the 7th move, when
GetClub threw away a piece for almost nothing, and then played so
idiotically that it lost any chance for compensation. Here is the
game:


So please try again with Opening moves. as this game was not played
with opening book for some reasion.


Sanny, as I said before, I am not wasting any more time with your
silly program. Or on replying to your silly posts.


Apparently, you ... mis-spoke ...


No, Ken. Unless I have had a memory lapse, the above post was the
first time that I said I would no longer reply to Sanny. Since then I
have not, therefore you and Mr. Veldhouse are mistaken in this regard.
The "as I before" applied to wasting time on his program.



Technically, although "Zeb" Kingston did not predict
that he was going to stop wasting his time here, he
used the present tense as in "I am not wasting time";
this explains the contradiction noted by other GetClub
hecklers. If you are typing a message which says that
you aren't typing, you have just contradicted yourself.

Of course, we know that what was *meant* was that
TK was not *going to* waste any more time after that
final post, which will not be followed by any others,
ever, on this subject. It's perfectly correct, as we shall
see in time; of that there can be no doubt. TK has
spoken his final words on this subject, and he certainly
showed a good deal of patience in waiting until now to
leave it alone. Forever. And always. As we shall see.


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Old September 18th 07, 11:01 PM posted to rec.games.chess.analysis,rec.games.chess.misc,alt.chess,rec.games.chess.computer,rec.games.chess.politics
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Default Can Fritz8 beat GetClub Master Level.

On Sep 18, 3:34 pm, TrekNoid wrote:

Your 'Easy' mode advertises 10-20 second moves... yet in my games, it
regularly took longer than 20 seconds to make a decision.


You have read wrong.


Beginner: 10-20 sec/move
Easy : 30-40 sec/move
Normal: 1-2 min/move
Master: 5-10 min/move


Bye
Sanny


Play Chess at:http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html


I've got a screen capture of your game on beginner level taking 144
seconds to make a move... It actually took longer, I just got tired of
Screen Capturing It's following move, it took 48 seconds...



In my experience, the program's actual speed of play
varies *dramatically*, from faster than advertised, to
much, much, much slower. I had one game last night
in which I was not 100% certain that I had not selected
by mistake the Advance level, for it would not move.
But later on, it began making moves very quickly, as if
suddenly awakened from a deep slumber. How this
happens with a Java applet running on my own
computer escapes me, but it could have something to
do with communications problems.


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