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Tough Game against Rybka.



 
 
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Old July 9th 08, 07:45 AM posted to rec.games.chess.analysis,rec.games.chess.misc,alt.chess,rec.games.chess.computer,rec.games.chess.politics
Sanny
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Default Tough Game against Rybka.

Today again game was improved, So GetClub will play twice Stronger.
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After improvement I had a match of Easy level against Rybka.

GetClub was able to see a trap and saved itself by not taking the pawn
with the Queen.

Game Played between Rybka and easy at GetClub.com

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Rybka: (White)
easy: (Black)
Game Played at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
View Recorded Game: http://www.getclub.com/playgame.php?...153&game=Chess
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White -- Black
(Rybka) -- (easy)

1. d2-d4{10} Ng8-f6{0}
2. Ng1-f3{10} g7-g6{0}
3. g2-g3{12} Bf8-g7{0}
4. Bf1-g2{10} Ke8-g8{0}
5. Ke1-g1{12} d7-d5{48}
6. c2-c4{14} Nf6-e4{42}
7. c4-d5{18} f7-f6{148}
8. Qd1-b3{18} Rf8-e8{210}
9. Nb1-c3{40} Ne4-c3{34}
10. b2-c3{18} Kg8-h8{44}
11. Rf1-e1{18} b7-b6{40}
12. e2-e4{16} Bc8-g4{64}
13. a2-a4{18} Nb8-d7{80}
14. h2-h3{18} Bg4-f3{38}
15. Bg2-f3{14} g6-g5{40}
16. Qb3-c4{24} a7-a6{44}
17. Bf3-g4{22} Nd7-f8{102}
18. Bc1-a3{18} Ra8-a7{46}
19. Ra1-b1{18} Nf8-g6{28}
20. a4-a5{30} b6-b5{22}
21. Qc4-c5{18} Qd8-a8{76}
22. Bg4-d7{30} Re8-f8{146}
23. c3-c4{16} g5-g4{46}
24. Bd7-c6{22} Ra7-b7{32}
25. h3-g4{20} Bg7-h6{38}
26. Bc6-b7{22} Qa8-b7{50}
27. f2-f4{2} Qb7-c8{30}
28. f4-f5{24} Bh6-d2{108}
29. f5-g6{20} Rf8-g8{104}
30. Qc5-e7{20} Rg8-g6{78}
31. Re1-d1{18} Bd2-e3{20}
32. Kg1-g2{16} Qc8-g4{44}
33. Qe7-f8{16} Rg6-g8{0}
34. Qf8-f6{16} Rg8-g7{24}
35. Qf6-f3{16} Be3-f4{72}
36. Qf3-g4{22} Rg7-g4{46}
37. Kg2-f3{2} Rg4-g3{126}
38. Kf3-f4{26} Rg3-a3{34}
39. c4-b5{2} Ra3-a5{44}
40. Rd1-c1{18} a6-b5{24}
41. Rc1-c7{18} h7-h6{144}
42. d5-d6{22} Ra5-a4{64}
43. d6-d7{22} Ra4-a8{38}
44. Rc7-c8{16} Kh8-h7{224}
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Rybka: (White)
easy: (Black)
Game Played at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
View Recorded Game: http://www.getclub.com/playgame.php?...153&game=Chess

I find most of the moves made by GetClub were forced move.

In this game GetClub was never free to do anything. Rybka keep
attacking various pieces and Easy Level was only defending its pieces.
But slowly its pieces got trapped.

And in end Rybka got the Queens and win. You can see how good GetClub
played despite such horrible positions.

Now easy level will be very tough for Help Bot to win.

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
  #2  
Old July 9th 08, 07:51 PM posted to rec.games.chess.analysis,rec.games.chess.misc,alt.chess,rec.games.chess.computer,rec.games.chess.politics
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Default Tough Game against Rybka.

On Jul 8, 11:45*pm, Sanny wrote:
Today again game was improved, So GetClub will play twice Stronger.


I am now certain that this whole GetClub thing is all a hoax.

First of all, nobody could have been involved in computer chess for so
long and learned so little about it as to make such amazingly silly
statements as "You can see how good GetClub played despite such
horrible positions" and "I find most of the moves made by GetClub were
forced move", let alone the innumerable "GetClub will play twice
Stronger" posts.

Secondly, I have some serious doubts that it was Rybka that played
White in this game. Moves 40 and 41, in particular, are definitely sub-
optimal. 40.Rdc1 is the 5th best move (two other moves are easily
found to lead to relatively short mates), and 41.Rxc7 is far worse
than 41.d6 (which also leads to a mate). However, I don't have Rybka,
so I'm just making judgments based on how strong I know Rybka is, and
the moves that White made in this game.

Either way, this is my last post to any thread about GetClub.

Best of Luck, Suckers!

jm (ex-Sucker)
  #3  
Old July 11th 08, 04:06 PM posted to rec.games.chess.analysis,rec.games.chess.misc,alt.chess,rec.games.chess.computer,rec.games.chess.politics
Sanny
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Default Extra Ordinary game by Peter.

Peter plays very quick. At 20sec/ move he won the Easy Level in just
25 moves. Look how quickly he won the Easy Level.

May be he uses a computer. But still his games are very impressive.

Game Played between peter and easy at GetClub.com

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peter: (White)
easy: (Black)
Game Played at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
View Recorded Game: http://www.getclub.com/playgame.php?...432&game=Chess
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White -- Black
(peter) -- (easy)

1. d2-d4{8} Ng8-f6{0}
2. c2-c4{4} c7-c5{0}
3. d4-d5{6} b7-b5{0}
4. c4-b5{6} a7-a6{0}
5. b5-a6{8} Bc8-a6{48}
6. Nb1-c3{12} Qd8-a5{40}
7. Ng1-f3{22} d7-d6{42}
8. Bc1-d2{58} Qa5-b4{22}
9. a2-a4{62} Nf6-e4{50}
10. e2-e3{112} Ne4-d2{78}
11. Nf3-d2{38} Ba6-f1{22}
12. Ke1-f1{166} Qb4-b2{22}
13. Nc3-b5{10} Nb8-a6{36}
14. Nd2-c4{20} Qb2-f6{76}
15. Nc4-b6{24} Ra8-b8{40}
16. a4-a5{8} Qf6-h4{98}
17. Ra1-a4{74} Na6-b4{82}
18. Kf1-g1{16} Rb8-b7{62}
19. a5-a6{16} Rb7-b6{46}
20. a6-a7{20} f7-f6{40}
21. Qa7-a8{Q}{10} Ke8-f7{76}
22. Nb5-c7{6} h7-h6{88}
23. Qa8-e8{24} Kf7-g8{2}
24. Ra4-a8{12} Kg8-h7{48}
25. Qd1-b1{10} g7-g6{4}
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peter: (White)
easy: (Black)
Game Played at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
View Recorded Game: http://www.getclub.com/playgame.php?...432&game=Chess

Was there any way to stop Peter's Queening?

He threw his both knights and attacked in such a way that he was able
to get the Queen.

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

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Old July 11th 08, 04:57 PM posted to rec.games.chess.analysis,rec.games.chess.computer
Peter Osterlund
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Default Extra Ordinary game by Peter.

Sanny writes:

Peter plays very quick. At 20sec/ move he won the Easy Level in just
25 moves. Look how quickly he won the Easy Level.

May be he uses a computer. But still his games are very impressive.


Yes, I used glaurung, set to 1 second per move and no thinking on the
opponent's time.

--
Peter Osterlund -
http://web.telia.com/~u89404340
  #5  
Old July 11th 08, 05:30 PM posted to rec.games.chess.analysis,rec.games.chess.computer
Sanny
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Default Extra Ordinary game by Peter.

May be he uses a computer. But still his games are very impressive.

Yes, I used glaurung, set to 1 second per move and no thinking on the
opponent's time.


If you set 1 second / move then why you made a few moves in 166
seconds and 112 seconds.

I find 10. e2-e3{112} you took 112 seconds

and 12. Ke1-f1{166} you took 166 seconds.

Was it really thinking for 1 sec / move?

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html


  #6  
Old July 11th 08, 05:50 PM posted to rec.games.chess.analysis,rec.games.chess.misc,alt.chess,rec.games.chess.computer,rec.games.chess.politics
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Default Extra Ordinary game by Peter.

And with play like this you say that Easy level is 2300+ rating?
Peter chopped Easy like hamburger, sliced it like tomatoes, diced it
like onions, and toasted it like buns.


*peter: (White)
easy: (Black)
Game Played at:http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
View Recorded Game:http://www.getclub.com/playgame.php?...432&game=Chess

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Old July 11th 08, 05:59 PM posted to rec.games.chess.analysis,rec.games.chess.computer
Peter Osterlund
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Default Extra Ordinary game by Peter.

Sanny writes:

May be he uses a computer. But still his games are very impressive.


Yes, I used glaurung, set to 1 second per move and no thinking on the
opponent's time.


If you set 1 second / move then why you made a few moves in 166
seconds and 112 seconds.

I find 10. e2-e3{112} you took 112 seconds

and 12. Ke1-f1{166} you took 166 seconds.

Was it really thinking for 1 sec / move?


Yes it was 1 second / move (or actually the time control was set to 60
moves in 60 seconds), but because getclub took on the average 42
seconds per move, I did other things while getclub was thinking.
Sometimes it took a while before I went back to the game.

Here is some data from from the glaurung log file that shows thinking
time, search depth, score, and the first three moves of the principal
variation, for all positions where glaurung was thinking, ie not when
it was still in the opening book. The thinking time is measured in
milliseconds.

7 depth 13 score cp 82 time 2532 pv g1f3 e7e6 c1d2
8 depth 13 score cp 82 time 1604 pv c1d2 b8d7 e2e4
9 depth 13 score cp 119 time 2306 pv a2a4 b4b7 e2e4
10 depth 14 score cp 76 time 3841 pv e2e3 a6f1 h1f1
11 depth 14 score cp 68 time 2847 pv f3d2 a6f1 d2f1
12 depth 15 score cp 58 time 3266 pv e1f1 g7g6 d1b3
13 depth 14 score cp 107 time 1611 pv c3b5 b8a6 d2c4
14 depth 14 score cp 96 time 452 pv d2c4 b2f6 c4b6
15 depth 14 score cp 100 time 1168 pv c4b6 a8b8 a4a5
16 depth 14 score cp 227 time 1487 pv a4a5 b8b7 d1a4
17 depth 13 score cp 329 time 699 pv a1a4 a6b4 b5d4
18 depth 13 score cp 456 time 1107 pv f1g1 e7e6 a5a6
19 depth 14 score cp 1284 time 1081 pv a5a6 b7b6 a6a7
20 depth 14 score cp 1313 time 736 pv a6a7 f7f5 a7a8q
21 depth 14 score cp 1354 time 712 pv a7a8q e8f7 b5c7
22 depth 14 score cp 1329 time 638 pv b5c7 g7g6 a8a7
23 depth 12 score mate 12 time 904 pv a8e8 f7g8 a4a8
24 depth 9 score mate 11 time 19 pv a4a8 b6b8 a8b8
25 depth 6 score mate 5 time 6 pv d1b1 b4c2 b1c2

I think it's quite impressive that it found a mate-in-12 in 0.904
seconds.

--
Peter Osterlund -
http://web.telia.com/~u89404340
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Old July 11th 08, 06:30 PM posted to rec.games.chess.analysis,rec.games.chess.computer
Sanny
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Default Extra Ordinary game by Peter.

On Jul 11, 9:59*pm, Peter Osterlund wrote:
Sanny writes:
May be he uses a computer. But still his games are very impressive.


Yes, I used glaurung, set to 1 second per move and no thinking on the
opponent's time.


If you set 1 second / move then why you made a few moves in 166
seconds and 112 seconds.


I find 10. e2-e3{112} *you took 112 seconds


and 12. Ke1-f1{166} you took 166 seconds.


Was it really thinking for 1 sec / move?


Yes it was 1 second / move (or actually the time control was set to 60
moves in 60 seconds), but becausegetclubtook on the average 42
seconds per move, I did other things whilegetclubwas thinking.
Sometimes it took a while before I went back to the game.

Here is some data from from the glaurung log file that shows thinking
time, search depth, score, and the first three moves of the principal
variation, for all positions where glaurung was thinking, ie not when
it was still in the opening book. The thinking time is measured in
milliseconds.

*7 depth 13 score cp * 82 time 2532 pv g1f3 e7e6 c1d2
*8 depth 13 score cp * 82 time 1604 pv c1d2 b8d7 e2e4
*9 depth 13 score cp *119 time 2306 pv a2a4 b4b7 e2e4
10 depth 14 score cp * 76 time 3841 pv e2e3 a6f1 h1f1
11 depth 14 score cp * 68 time 2847 pv f3d2 a6f1 d2f1
12 depth 15 score cp * 58 time 3266 pv e1f1 g7g6 d1b3
13 depth 14 score cp *107 time 1611 pv c3b5 b8a6 d2c4
14 depth 14 score cp * 96 time *452 pv d2c4 b2f6 c4b6
15 depth 14 score cp *100 time 1168 pv c4b6 a8b8 a4a5
16 depth 14 score cp *227 time 1487 pv a4a5 b8b7 d1a4
17 depth 13 score cp *329 time *699 pv a1a4 a6b4 b5d4
18 depth 13 score cp *456 time 1107 pv f1g1 e7e6 a5a6
19 depth 14 score cp 1284 time 1081 pv a5a6 b7b6 a6a7
20 depth 14 score cp 1313 time *736 pv a6a7 f7f5 a7a8q
21 depth 14 score cp 1354 time *712 pv a7a8q e8f7 b5c7
22 depth 14 score cp 1329 time *638 pv b5c7 g7g6 a8a7
23 depth 12 score mate 12 time *904 pv a8e8 f7g8 a4a8
24 depth *9 score mate 11 time * 19 pv a4a8 b6b8 a8b8
25 depth *6 score mate *5 time * *6 pv d1b1 b4c2 b1c2

I think it's quite impressive that it found a mate-in-12 in 0.904
seconds.

--
Peter Osterlund - /~u89404340


Do you have dual/ quad processor? And what is the configuration of
your System?

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
  #9  
Old July 11th 08, 06:32 PM posted to rec.games.chess.analysis,rec.games.chess.misc,alt.chess,rec.games.chess.computer,rec.games.chess.politics
Sanny
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Default Extra Ordinary game by Peter.

On Jul 11, 9:50*pm, " wrote:
And with play like this you say that Easy level is 2300+ rating?
Peter chopped Easy like hamburger, *sliced it like tomatoes, *diced it
like onions, and toasted it like buns.


He used Computers help, to play against it. I only think about Human
Players.

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

  #10  
Old July 11th 08, 07:16 PM posted to rec.games.chess.analysis,rec.games.chess.computer
Peter Osterlund
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Default Extra Ordinary game by Peter.

Sanny writes:

On Jul 11, 9:59 pm, Peter Osterlund wrote:
Sanny writes:
May be he uses a computer. But still his games are very impressive.


Yes, I used glaurung, set to 1 second per move and no thinking on the
opponent's time.


If you set 1 second / move then why you made a few moves in 166
seconds and 112 seconds.


I find 10. e2-e3{112} you took 112 seconds


and 12. Ke1-f1{166} you took 166 seconds.


Was it really thinking for 1 sec / move?


Yes it was 1 second / move (or actually the time control was set to 60
moves in 60 seconds), but becausegetclubtook on the average 42
seconds per move, I did other things whilegetclubwas thinking.
Sometimes it took a while before I went back to the game.

Here is some data from from the glaurung log file that shows thinking
time, search depth, score, and the first three moves of the principal
variation, for all positions where glaurung was thinking, ie not when
it was still in the opening book. The thinking time is measured in
milliseconds.

7 depth 13 score cp 82 time 2532 pv g1f3 e7e6 c1d2

....
23 depth 12 score mate 12 time 904 pv a8e8 f7g8 a4a8
24 depth 9 score mate 11 time 19 pv a4a8 b6b8 a8b8
25 depth 6 score mate 5 time 6 pv d1b1 b4c2 b1c2

I think it's quite impressive that it found a mate-in-12 in 0.904
seconds.


Do you have dual/ quad processor? And what is the configuration of
your System?


Glaurung was running on a 2.6GHz Core 2 duo and GetClub was running on
a 3.1GHz P4. Glaurung was using both cores, although I don't know how
effective that is when it's only allowed to think for 1 second on
average.

--
Peter Osterlund -
http://web.telia.com/~u89404340
 




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