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Old December 10th 08, 05:30 PM posted to rec.games.chess.analysis,rec.games.chess.misc,alt.chess,rec.games.chess.computer,rec.games.chess.politics
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Default Best game by Wlod.

Wlod played with Baby level. It was a game of huge sacrifices.

At First wlod gave a pawn sacrifice on move 8.

On move 15th Wlod gave sacrifice of its Bishop for a pawn.

Now GetClub was a pawn up.

On move 21 Wlod sacrifice his Rook for Bishop.

Now GetClub was up by a Rook.

Then on 26th move Wlod found Mate. It was a quick win by sacrificing a
Rook.

Game Played between wlod and baby at GetClub.com

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wlod: (White)
baby: (Black)
Game Played at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
View Recorded Game: http://www.getclub.com/playgame.php?...403&game=Chess
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White -- Black
(wlod) -- (baby)

1. e2-e4{12} e7-e5{0}
2. f2-f4{4} Bf8-c5{0}
3. Ng1-f3{4} d7-d6{0}
4. c2-c3{4} Bc5-b6{0}
5. d2-d4{2} Ng8-f6{2}
6. Bf1-d3{8} d6-d5{0}
7. e4-d5{12} e5-f4{2}
8. Ke1-g1{6} Nf6-d5{2}
9. Rf1-e1{6} Ke8-f8{4}
10. c3-c4{10} Nd5-f6{2}
11. Bc1-f4{18} Qd8-d7{2}
12. Kg1-h1{10} Bb6-d4{2}
13. Nf3-d4{12} Qd7-d4{0}
14. Bf4-e5{8} Qd4-d8{2}
15. Nb1-c3{10} Nf6-d7{0}
16. Be5-g7{26} Kf8-g7{2}
17. Qd1-g4{4} Kg7-f8{2}
18. Qg4-h5{14} Nd7-b6{2}
19. Qh5-h6{6} Kf8-g8{2}
20. Re1-e4{14} Bc8-f5{2}
21. Nc3-d5{46} Nb6-d5{2}
22. c4-d5{8} Bf5-e4{0}
23. Bd3-e4{4} Qd8-d7{2}
24. Ra1-e1{18} Qd7-b5{2}
25. b2-b3{12} Qb5-c5{0}
26. Be4-h7{22} Rh8-h7{0}
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wlod: (White)
baby: (Black)
Game Played at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
View Recorded Game: http://www.getclub.com/playgame.php?...403&game=Chess

Well Played. Was this win due to good luck or you really gave these
sacrifices and win in just 26 moves.

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
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Old December 10th 08, 07:14 PM posted to rec.games.chess.analysis,rec.games.chess.misc,alt.chess,rec.games.chess.computer,rec.games.chess.politics
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Default Best game by Wlod.

On Dec 10, 8:30*am, Sanny wrote:
Was this win due to good luck or you really gave these
sacrifices and win in just 26 moves.


Have you ever considered analyzing your stupid engine's games with
another program that actually plays good chess? If so, you might have
been able to discover for yourself that Baby walked into a Mate in 3
in a drawish position.

Damn, Sanny, you're hopeless.

jm
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Old December 10th 08, 07:18 PM posted to rec.games.chess.analysis,rec.games.chess.misc,alt.chess,rec.games.chess.computer,rec.games.chess.politics
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Default Best game by Wlod.

Have you ever considered analyzing your stupid engine's games with
another program that actually plays good chess? If so, you might have
been able to discover for yourself that Baby walked into a Mate in 3
in a drawish position.


Baby thinks for just 2 sec / move so may be it missed that move.

Beginner & Easy Levels would have played better game.

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
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Old December 10th 08, 07:23 PM posted to rec.games.chess.analysis,rec.games.chess.misc,alt.chess,rec.games.chess.computer,rec.games.chess.politics
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Default Best game by Wlod.

On Dec 10, 1:18*pm, Sanny wrote:
Have you ever considered analyzing your stupid engine's games with
another program that actually plays good chess? If so, you might have
been able to discover for yourself that Baby walked into a Mate in 3
in a drawish position.


Baby thinks for just 2 sec / move so may be it missed that move.

Beginner & Easy Levels would have played better game.

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess *at:http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html


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Old December 10th 08, 07:45 PM posted to rec.games.chess.analysis,rec.games.chess.misc,alt.chess,rec.games.chess.computer,rec.games.chess.politics
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Default Best game by Wlod.

On Dec 10, 8:30 am, Sanny wrote:

The title of Sanny's post is silly, and the game
was silly. I am sooo rusty, it was my first game
in a long time. After difficulties with the GetClub
interface, and after 4am it was just foolish to
play. GetClub played some meaningless moves so I was
in good shape. Then I overshot my move, I meant
20.Re3, but of course, but somehow I clicked off (?)
and got my rook on e4. A few moves later, when I
was about to checkmate the GetClub it broke the game,
which is quite unpleasant. I didn't know what to think
about GetClub manners. It did the same in the next game!
Suddenly the game is over.

Wlod played with Baby level. It was a game of huge sacrifices.

At First wlod gave a pawn sacrifice on move 8.

On move 15th Wlod gave sacrifice of its Bishop for a pawn.

Now GetClub was a pawn up.

On move 21 Wlod sacrifice his Rook for Bishop.


:-) As I have mentioned, it was
a result of frustration. I meant 20.Re3. Then
perhaps 21.Rae1 22.Rg3 mate, that was the threat
and something along this line was supposed to happen.

Now GetClub was up by a Rook.

Then on 26th move Wlod found Mate. It was a quick win by sacrificing a
Rook.

Game Played between wlod and baby at GetClub.com



Sunny, it's not a big deal, it's ok that you have posted
my foolish game but it would be still nice if you asked
me first in private. I was way too sleepy to say more
about the game except to repeat that while I more or
less was routinely developing my pieces, GetClub made
a couple of moves which to me had no meaning. In King's
Gambit it is not advisable to play like this, each
moves counts, as I learned by losing some tournament
games with KG (while overall I had a plus score I think).

Regards,

Wlod

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wlod: (White)
baby: (Black)
Game Played at:http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
View Recorded Game:http://www.getclub.com/playgame.php?...403&game=Chess
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

White -- Black
(wlod) -- (baby)

1. e2-e4{12} e7-e5{0}
2. f2-f4{4} Bf8-c5{0}
3. Ng1-f3{4} d7-d6{0}
4. c2-c3{4} Bc5-b6{0}
5. d2-d4{2} Ng8-f6{2}
6. Bf1-d3{8} d6-d5{0}
7. e4-d5{12} e5-f4{2}
8. Ke1-g1{6} Nf6-d5{2}
9. Rf1-e1{6} Ke8-f8{4}
10. c3-c4{10} Nd5-f6{2}
11. Bc1-f4{18} Qd8-d7{2}
12. Kg1-h1{10} Bb6-d4{2}
13. Nf3-d4{12} Qd7-d4{0}
14. Bf4-e5{8} Qd4-d8{2}
15. Nb1-c3{10} Nf6-d7{0}
16. Be5-g7{26} Kf8-g7{2}
17. Qd1-g4{4} Kg7-f8{2}
18. Qg4-h5{14} Nd7-b6{2}
19. Qh5-h6{6} Kf8-g8{2}
20. Re1-e4{14} Bc8-f5{2}
21. Nc3-d5{46} Nb6-d5{2}
22. c4-d5{8} Bf5-e4{0}
23. Bd3-e4{4} Qd8-d7{2}
24. Ra1-e1{18} Qd7-b5{2}
25. b2-b3{12} Qb5-c5{0}
26. Be4-h7{22} Rh8-h7{0}
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wlod: (White)
baby: (Black)
Game Played at:http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
View Recorded Game:http://www.getclub.com/playgame.php?...403&game=Chess

Well Played. Was this win due to good luck or you really gave these
sacrifices and win in just 26 moves.

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at:http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html


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Old December 11th 08, 04:55 AM posted to rec.games.chess.analysis,rec.games.chess.misc,alt.chess,rec.games.chess.computer
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Default Best game by Wlod... er, not

On Dec 10, 11:30*am, Sanny wrote:

Wlod played with Baby level. It was a game of huge sacrifices.

At First wlod gave a pawn sacrifice on move 8.



In this kind of position, it is a mistake to take
the f4 pawn with the intention of trying to hold
onto it. Obviously, Black ought to have tried
7. ...e4 instead.


On move 15th Wlod gave sacrifice of its Bishop for a pawn.

Now GetClub was a pawn up.



It was on move sixteen that White needlessly
sacrificed his Bishop for a couple of spite-
checks (what fun).


On move 21 Wlod sacrifice his Rook for Bishop.

Now GetClub was up by a Rook.



That was not a sacrifice; it was a hang.
Why weak players have so much trouble
distinguishing these things escapes me.


Then on 26th move Wlod found Mate.



This much is correct.

--

White generally had the better of it up to
move eighteen, when Black found the
horrific move ...Nb6.

Then, as Mr. Wlod explained, White let
slip his Rook on the wrong square, and
after the subsequent errors, 21. Nd5 and
22. cxd5, Black was simply winning.

However, there followed -- for the
second time -- the awful ...Qd7, and the
worse still ...Qb5 (which loses outright to
the obvious move, Bd3). Mr. Wlod erred
again with the silly move p-b3, and Black
was, miraculously, back in the game.

Unfortunately, the GetClub program is
steadfast in its refusal to develop more
than one or two pieces, so we saw yet
another senseless Queen move,
resulting in an obvious back-rank mate.


Sanny, your Baby level is simply not
good enough to play decent chess, at
two seconds per move. Better to look
over some of GetClub's better games--
likely its games on Advance or Master
level. Unfortunately, few players will
have the patience to endure such
levels.


-- help bot






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Old December 11th 08, 06:44 AM posted to rec.games.chess.analysis,rec.games.chess.misc,alt.chess,rec.games.chess.computer
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Default Best game by Wlod... er, not

* Sanny, your Baby level is simply not
good enough to play decent chess, at
two seconds per move. * Better to look
over some of GetClub's better games--
likely its games on Advance or Master
level. * Unfortunately, few players will
have the patience to endure such
levels.


You skipped the Beginner & Easy Levels which play in 10-20 sec / move
and 40-60 sec / move respectively.

Playing Easy Level is very difficult and it plays in 1 min / move.

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
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Old December 11th 08, 12:29 PM posted to rec.games.chess.analysis,rec.games.chess.misc,alt.chess,rec.games.chess.computer,rec.games.chess.politics
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Default Best game by Wlod.

The game in proper pgn style.

[Event "Getclub"]
[Site "Getclub"]
[Date "2008.12.08"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Holsztynski , Wlodzimierz"]
[Black "Getclub, Baby level"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "C30"]
[Annotator ",Offramp"]
[PlyCount "52"]
[EventDate "2008.11.08"]
[EventType "game"]
[EventCountry "USA"]
[SourceDate "2008.12.11"]

1. e4 e5 2. f4 {A clarion call} Bc5 {Black should take the pawn. In my
experience he keeps the pawn and has the initiative} 3. Nf3 d6 4. c3
Bb6 5. d4 Nf6 6. Bd3 d5 {When you are behind in development you should
not open up the centre} 7. exd5 exf4 (7... e4 8. Qe2 Qe7 9. Bb5+ c6
10. d6 Qxd6 11. Bc4 O-O 12. Ne5 {looks good for white}) 8. O-O Nxd5 9.
Re1+ Kf8 10. c4 Nf6 11. Bxf4 {White is winning} Qd7 {Why block in the
bishop?} 12. Kh1 ({Surely} 12. Nc3 {is better?} Bxd4+ 13. Nxd4 Qxd4+
14. Be3 Qd6 15. Nb5 {and black looks in serious trouble}) 12... Bxd4
13. Nxd4 Qxd4 {This looks risky but there doesn't seem to be a
knockout blow} 14. Be5 Qd8 15. Nc3 Nfd7 {A very bad move. There is
just nothing right about it.} 16. Bxg7+ {Good one!} Kxg7 17. Qg4+ Kf8
18. Qh5 ({My very first thought was} 18. Nd5 {but} Rg8 (18... Nc5 19.
Qd4) 19. Qf4 Nc6 {seems okay}) 18... Nb6 {Taking this defensive piece
as far away as it can go. Black now has just a king and a rook on the
whole 32 squares of the k-side} (18... Rg8 {was best}) 19. Qh6+ Kg8
20. Re4 {Oh dear. This move is so illogical that I think it must have
been mouse slip. It is easy to do; he dropped the rook one square too
far.} (20. Re3 {wins immediately}) 20... Bf5 21. Nd5 ({With} 21. Rf1
Bxe4 22. Nxe4 {white would still be winning}) 21... Nxd5 {Now,
amazingly, black is on top!} 22. cxd5 Bxe4 23. Bxe4 Qd7 {This move,
which has no meaning, seems to be the only one which does not give
black a large advantage. The knight needs access to d7. Also the black
queen should avoid white squares. White's only hopes lie in placing a
rook on e8 or g3} 24. Re1 Qb5 25. b3 {Gah! He takes time out to rescue
the b-pawn! Now black can draw} (25. Bd3 Qd7 26. Re3 {wins}) 25... Qc5
(25... Nd7 26. Qg5+ Kf8 27. Qh6+ Kg8 {=}) (25... Qd7 {??} 26. Re3
{wins}) 26. Bxh7+ {Yes! Humans rule!} Rxh7 1-0
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Old December 11th 08, 02:52 PM posted to rec.games.chess.analysis,rec.games.chess.misc,alt.chess,rec.games.chess.computer,rec.games.chess.politics
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Default Best game by Wlod.

On Dec 11, 4:29*pm, Offramp wrote:
The game in proper pgn style.

[Event "Getclub"]
[Site "Getclub"]
[Date "2008.12.08"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Holsztynski , Wlodzimierz"]
[Black "Getclub, Baby level"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "C30"]
[Annotator ",Offramp"]
[PlyCount "52"]
[EventDate "2008.11.08"]
[EventType "game"]
[EventCountry "USA"]
[SourceDate "2008.12.11"]

1. e4 e5 2. f4 {A clarion call} Bc5 {Black should take the pawn. In my
experience he keeps the pawn and has the initiative} 3. Nf3 d6 4. c3
Bb6 5. d4 Nf6 6. Bd3 d5 {When you are behind in development you should
not open up the centre} 7. exd5 exf4 (7... e4 8. Qe2 Qe7 9. Bb5+ c6
10. d6 Qxd6 11. Bc4 O-O 12. Ne5 {looks good for white}) 8. O-O Nxd5 9.
Re1+ Kf8 10. c4 Nf6 11. Bxf4 {White is winning} Qd7 {Why block in the
bishop?} 12. Kh1 ({Surely} 12. Nc3 {is better?} Bxd4+ 13. Nxd4 Qxd4+
14. Be3 Qd6 15. Nb5 {and black looks in serious trouble}) 12... Bxd4
13. Nxd4 Qxd4 {This looks risky but there doesn't seem to be a
knockout blow} 14. Be5 Qd8 15. Nc3 Nfd7 {A very bad move. There is
just nothing right about it.} 16. Bxg7+ {Good one!} Kxg7 17. Qg4+ Kf8
18. Qh5 ({My very first thought was} 18. Nd5 {but} Rg8 (18... Nc5 19.
Qd4) 19. Qf4 Nc6 {seems okay}) 18... Nb6 {Taking this defensive piece
as far away as it can go. Black now has just a king and a rook on the
whole 32 squares of the k-side} (18... Rg8 {was best}) 19. Qh6+ Kg8
20. Re4 {Oh dear. This move is so illogical that I think it must have
been mouse slip. It is easy to do; he dropped the rook one square too
far.} (20. Re3 {wins immediately}) 20... Bf5 21. Nd5 ({With} 21. Rf1
Bxe4 22. Nxe4 {white would still be winning}) 21... Nxd5 {Now,
amazingly, black is on top!} 22. cxd5 Bxe4 23. Bxe4 Qd7 {This move,
which has no meaning, seems to be the only one which does not give
black a large advantage. The knight needs access to d7. Also the black
queen should avoid white squares. White's only hopes lie in placing a
rook on e8 or g3} 24. Re1 Qb5 25. b3 {Gah! He takes time out to rescue
the b-pawn! Now black can draw} (25. Bd3 Qd7 26. Re3 {wins}) 25... Qc5
(25... Nd7 26. Qg5+ Kf8 27. Qh6+ Kg8 {=}) (25... Qd7 {??} 26. Re3
{wins}) 26. Bxh7+ {Yes! Humans rule!} Rxh7 1-0


Good analysis.

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
 




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