Judit Polgar had a chess match with Peter Svidler a few days ago and she
made some brilliant moves (look at her novelty 16...Na3+! but
nevertheless lost a heartbreaker. I say heartbreaker because Judit
should have won this game easily. After playing over the game a few
times, I've picked out the FEN position of where I believe she went
wrong:

2r2rk1/2q1bp1p/3p2p1/1p1Pp1Pn/p1n3R1/3B1P2/PPPN1Q1P/K1BR4 b

And what does Judit Polgar do? She throws a lifesaver to Peter Svidler
by making this dubious move: 23...Qb6?! This inexplicable move causes
Judit Polgar to love the initative, a pawn and ultimately the game . But
one thing I'm surprised to see Judit Polgar do is exchange queens when
she was ahead. Isn't it a cardinal rule never to exchange queens when
you're ahead in development? Either Judit Polgar was dead set on
fighting for a draw or she didn't see farther enough due to time
troubles, perhaps? I don't know the game time limit for this one played
in France.

In any case, here's the variation I worked out had Judit Polgar chosen
it (in my opinion, of course).Why didn't WGM Judit Polgar try 23...Qa5!
which I thought would have been a much stronger move. The rest of my
variation runs 24.Bxc4 bc 25.Nxc4 Qc7 26.Nb5 Qxc2 27.Qxc2 Rxc2 28.Nd7
Rd8 29.Nb6 Ng7 30.Nxa4 Rxh2 and Judit Polgar would have maintained the
initative and exerted uncomfortable pressure against Peter Svidler's
White pieces.

The game was part of the rapid chess tourney.
Wilma

"Alberich" wrote in message
. ..
Judit Polgar had a chess match with Peter Svidler a few days ago and she
[snip]
troubles, perhaps? I don't know the game time limit for this one played
[snip]

In article . net,
says...
The game was part of the rapid chess tourney.
Wilma

"Alberich" wrote in message
. ..
Judit Polgar had a chess match with Peter Svidler a few days ago and she
[snip]
troubles, perhaps? I don't know the game time limit for this one played
[snip]



So that explains the poor move?

"Alberich" wrote in message
. ..
In article . net,
says...
The game was part of the rapid chess tourney.
Wilma

"Alberich" wrote in message
. ..
Judit Polgar had a chess match with Peter Svidler a few days ago and
she
[snip]
troubles, perhaps? I don't know the game time limit for this one
played
[snip]



So that explains the poor move?

Yes. It does.

I have never heard of the cardinal rule never to exchange
queens when ahead in development.

regards


Regards

Hi
I've looked at the position and your proposed variation, but I can't make
sense of the move 26 Nb5. I have the knight on c4 so it can't move to b5.
-Andrew

Alberich wrote in message
. ..
Judit Polgar had a chess match with Peter Svidler a few days ago and she
made some brilliant moves (look at her novelty 16...Na3+! but
nevertheless lost a heartbreaker. I say heartbreaker because Judit
should have won this game easily. After playing over the game a few
times, I've picked out the FEN position of where I believe she went
wrong:

2r2rk1/2q1bp1p/3p2p1/1p1Pp1Pn/p1n3R1/3B1P2/PPPN1Q1P/K1BR4 b

And what does Judit Polgar do? She throws a lifesaver to Peter Svidler
by making this dubious move: 23...Qb6?! This inexplicable move causes
Judit Polgar to love the initative, a pawn and ultimately the game . But
one thing I'm surprised to see Judit Polgar do is exchange queens when
she was ahead. Isn't it a cardinal rule never to exchange queens when
you're ahead in development? Either Judit Polgar was dead set on
fighting for a draw or she didn't see farther enough due to time
troubles, perhaps? I don't know the game time limit for this one played
in France.

In any case, here's the variation I worked out had Judit Polgar chosen
it (in my opinion, of course).Why didn't WGM Judit Polgar try 23...Qa5!
which I thought would have been a much stronger move. The rest of my
variation runs 24.Bxc4 bc 25.Nxc4 Qc7 26.Nb5 Qxc2 27.Qxc2 Rxc2 28.Nd7
Rd8 29.Nb6 Ng7 30.Nxa4 Rxh2 and Judit Polgar would have maintained the
initative and exerted uncomfortable pressure against Peter Svidler's
White pieces.

OK, I've now worked out you meant 26 Nb6.
My Fritz program says 26 Na3 is better for white (0.72) with main line
26...Qd7 27. Rc4
Fritz is not too displeased with Polgar's 23rd move, suggesting her problems
started to emerge a couple of moves later.

For the record, here is the game.

[Event "GpB"]
[Site "Cap D'Agde FRA"]
[Date "2003.10.24"]
[Round "2"]
[White "Svidler,P"]
[Black "Polgar,Ju"]
[Result "1-0"]
[WhiteElo "2723"]
[BlackElo "2722"]
[EventDate "2003.10.24"]
[ECO "B90"]

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. f3 e5 7. Nb3 Be6 8.
Be3 Nbd7 9. g4 Nb6 10. g5 Nh5 11. Qd2 Be7 12. O-O-O Rc8 13. Rg1 O-O 14. Kb1
g6 15. Qf2 Nc4 16. Bc1 Na3+ 17. Ka1 b5 18. Bd3 Qc7 19. Rg2 a5 20. Nd5 Bxd5
21. exd5 Nc4 22. Rg4 a4 23. Nd2 Qb6 24. Qxb6 Nxb6 25. Bxb5 Nxd5 26. Ne4
Ndf4 27. Bxa4 d5 28. Ng3 Rfd8 29. Nxh5 gxh5 30. Rgg1 Ng6 31. Bb3 d4 32. Kb1
Kg7 33. Rge1 Bd6 34. Re4 h4 35. h3 Rf8 36. c3 Bc5 37. cxd4 exd4 38. Bd2
Rce8 39. Rde1 Rxe4 40. Rxe4 f5 41. gxf6+ Rxf6 42. f4 Ne7 43. a4 Rg6 44. Re5
Bd6 45. Rg5 Rxg5 46. fxg5 Nc6 47. Bd5 Nb4 48. Be4 Be7 49. a5 Bc5 50. b3 Bd6
51. Kb2 Bc5 52. Ka3 Nd5+ 53. b4 Ne3 54. bxc5 Nc4+ 55. Kb4 Nxd2 56. Bg2 1-0


Andrew and Anne-Marie wrote in message
...
Hi
I've looked at the position and your proposed variation, but I can't make
sense of the move 26 Nb5. I have the knight on c4 so it can't move to b5.
-Andrew

Alberich wrote in message
. ..
Judit Polgar had a chess match with Peter Svidler a few days ago and she
made some brilliant moves (look at her novelty 16...Na3+! but
nevertheless lost a heartbreaker. I say heartbreaker because Judit
should have won this game easily. After playing over the game a few
times, I've picked out the FEN position of where I believe she went
wrong:

2r2rk1/2q1bp1p/3p2p1/1p1Pp1Pn/p1n3R1/3B1P2/PPPN1Q1P/K1BR4 b

And what does Judit Polgar do? She throws a lifesaver to Peter Svidler
by making this dubious move: 23...Qb6?! This inexplicable move causes
Judit Polgar to love the initative, a pawn and ultimately the game . But
one thing I'm surprised to see Judit Polgar do is exchange queens when
she was ahead. Isn't it a cardinal rule never to exchange queens when
you're ahead in development? Either Judit Polgar was dead set on
fighting for a draw or she didn't see farther enough due to time
troubles, perhaps? I don't know the game time limit for this one played
in France.

In any case, here's the variation I worked out had Judit Polgar chosen
it (in my opinion, of course).Why didn't WGM Judit Polgar try 23...Qa5!
which I thought would have been a much stronger move. The rest of my
variation runs 24.Bxc4 bc 25.Nxc4 Qc7 26.Nb5 Qxc2 27.Qxc2 Rxc2 28.Nd7
Rd8 29.Nb6 Ng7 30.Nxa4 Rxh2 and Judit Polgar would have maintained the
initative and exerted uncomfortable pressure against Peter Svidler's
White pieces.

Seems to me addressing her as "WGM" when she is a top-ten GM is not
exactly proper. It's like calling President _______ the Governor of _______
or Senator _______.......

"Alberich" wrote in message
. ..
Judit Polgar had a chess match with Peter Svidler a few days ago and she
made some brilliant moves (look at her novelty 16...Na3+! but
nevertheless lost a heartbreaker. I say heartbreaker because Judit
should have won this game easily. After playing over the game a few
times, I've picked out the FEN position of where I believe she went
wrong:

2r2rk1/2q1bp1p/3p2p1/1p1Pp1Pn/p1n3R1/3B1P2/PPPN1Q1P/K1BR4 b

And what does Judit Polgar do? She throws a lifesaver to Peter Svidler
by making this dubious move: 23...Qb6?! This inexplicable move causes
Judit Polgar to love the initative, a pawn and ultimately the game . But
one thing I'm surprised to see Judit Polgar do is exchange queens when
she was ahead. Isn't it a cardinal rule never to exchange queens when
you're ahead in development? Either Judit Polgar was dead set on
fighting for a draw or she didn't see farther enough due to time
troubles, perhaps? I don't know the game time limit for this one played
in France.

In any case, here's the variation I worked out had Judit Polgar chosen
it (in my opinion, of course).Why didn't WGM Judit Polgar try 23...Qa5!
which I thought would have been a much stronger move. The rest of my
variation runs 24.Bxc4 bc 25.Nxc4 Qc7 26.Nb5 Qxc2 27.Qxc2 Rxc2 28.Nd7
Rd8 29.Nb6 Ng7 30.Nxa4 Rxh2 and Judit Polgar would have maintained the
initative and exerted uncomfortable pressure against Peter Svidler's
White pieces.

I have never heard of the cardinal rule never to exchange
queens when ahead in development.


While not a cardinal rule, one often exchanges pieces when ahead in
material. I haven't looked at the game, but perhaps Judit felt
Svidler's queen could become too active and so chose to exchange it.
Also, since it was at rapid time controls, she may have wished to
exchange material and get to the endgame quicker.

John

In article , gorkov43
@hotmail.com says...

Seems to me addressing her as "WGM" when she is a top-ten GM is not
exactly proper. It's like calling President _______ the Governor of _______
or Senator _______.......

"Alberich" wrote in message
. ..
Judit Polgar had a chess match with Peter Svidler a few days ago and she
made some brilliant moves (look at her novelty 16...Na3+! but
nevertheless lost a heartbreaker. I say heartbreaker because Judit
should have won this game easily. After playing over the game a few
times, I've picked out the FEN position of where I believe she went
wrong:

2r2rk1/2q1bp1p/3p2p1/1p1Pp1Pn/p1n3R1/3B1P2/PPPN1Q1P/K1BR4 b

And what does Judit Polgar do? She throws a lifesaver to Peter Svidler
by making this dubious move: 23...Qb6?! This inexplicable move causes
Judit Polgar to love the initative, a pawn and ultimately the game . But
one thing I'm surprised to see Judit Polgar do is exchange queens when
she was ahead. Isn't it a cardinal rule never to exchange queens when
you're ahead in development? Either Judit Polgar was dead set on
fighting for a draw or she didn't see farther enough due to time
troubles, perhaps? I don't know the game time limit for this one played
in France.

In any case, here's the variation I worked out had Judit Polgar chosen
it (in my opinion, of course).Why didn't WGM Judit Polgar try 23...Qa5!
which I thought would have been a much stronger move. The rest of my
variation runs 24.Bxc4 bc 25.Nxc4 Qc7 26.Nb5 Qxc2 27.Qxc2 Rxc2 28.Nd7
Rd8 29.Nb6 Ng7 30.Nxa4 Rxh2 and Judit Polgar would have maintained the
initative and exerted uncomfortable pressure against Peter Svidler's
White pieces.





Well, they're going to have to clarify that point because I've seen
Susan Polgar addressed as both GM and WGM so help me out. I'm sorry if I
addressed her incorrectly using the wrong title, but I was under the
impression she's a WGM. Besides, saying WGM makes it easier for me to
filter out the women from the men in my databases.

Alberich wrote in message ...
Judit Polgar had a chess match with Peter Svidler a few days ago and she
made some brilliant moves (look at her novelty 16...Na3+! but
nevertheless lost a heartbreaker. I say heartbreaker because Judit
should have won this game easily. After playing over the game a few
times, I've picked out the FEN position of where I believe she went
wrong:

2r2rk1/2q1bp1p/3p2p1/1p1Pp1Pn/p1n3R1/3B1P2/PPPN1Q1P/K1BR4 b

And what does Judit Polgar do? She throws a lifesaver to Peter Svidler
by making this dubious move: 23...Qb6?! This inexplicable move causes
Judit Polgar to love the initative, a pawn and ultimately the game . But
one thing I'm surprised to see Judit Polgar do is exchange queens when
she was ahead. Isn't it a cardinal rule never to exchange queens when
you're ahead in development? Either Judit Polgar was dead set on
fighting for a draw or she didn't see farther enough due to time
troubles, perhaps? I don't know the game time limit for this one played
in France.

In any case, here's the variation I worked out had Judit Polgar chosen
it (in my opinion, of course).Why didn't WGM Judit Polgar try 23...Qa5!
which I thought would have been a much stronger move. The rest of my
variation runs 24.Bxc4 bc 25.Nxc4 Qc7 26.Nb5 Qxc2 27.Qxc2 Rxc2 28.Nd7
Rd8 29.Nb6 Ng7 30.Nxa4 Rxh2 and Judit Polgar would have maintained the
initative and exerted uncomfortable pressure against Peter Svidler's
White pieces.

23. ...Qa5 (from your sugestion) does not give equality because if Nxc4 will
attack black's Q and forced exchange is the continuation. But insted of
Bxc4 it is preferrable to regain the B so that it will support the c2 square.

As a alternative for black the Dark square B is
inactive. If black is able to make the dark square B as dragon one (a1-h8 line)
then black can strom a attack on the Q side (Like dragon varioution). So i
will sugest for 23. ...f5.
23. ...f5 24.gxf6 Nxf6 25.Rg2 (forced move but the attack over the black
king will liquadate by black's counter attack in the Q side. )25. ... a3!
(the idea behind this move is to make the dark square B as active as it
can)
26.bxa3 Nxd5 27.Nxc4 (the e3 square must be defended)...bxc4 28.Be2 Rb8-+
(Soon black's dark square B will come into a stronger play)
OR
28.Bxg6 the sack is bad because of the escape root for black king
via f7-e8. But i dont find any other move for white.
28.Bxg6 hxg6 29.Rxg6 Kf7 30.Qg2 Qa5 31.Rg7 Ke8 -+

But all this maoves are not possible in a rapid game.

thanks
sathyashrayan