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Old July 14th 03, 12:25 AM
Fred Galvin
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1.d4 d5 2.e4 dxe4 3.Nc3 c6 4.Bc4 Nf6 5.f3 exf3 6.Nxf3 e6 7.0-0 Be7
8.Ne5 Nbd7 9.Qe2 Nf8

This is game #273 (Schneider-Braun) from Tim Sawyer's "Blackmar-Diemer
Gambit Keybook" (1st edition).

My question: instead of 9...Nf8 what about 9...Nb6 to exchange off the
White bishop? Is that a bad move? Has it been played?

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Old July 14th 03, 02:02 AM
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Fred Galvin wrote

1.d4 d5 2.e4 dxe4 3.Nc3 c6 4.Bc4 Nf6 5.f3 exf3 6.Nxf3 e6 7.0-0 Be7
8.Ne5 Nbd7 9.Qe2 Nf8

This is game #273 (Schneider-Braun) from Tim Sawyer's "Blackmar-Diemer
Gambit Keybook" (1st edition).

My question: instead of 9...Nf8 what about 9...Nb6 to exchange off the
White bishop? Is that a bad move?


I don't think so. I guess it interferes with the plans to attack the
central knight and diminish pressure on f7.


Has it been played?




Lutton,J (2065) - Taylor,R (2119) [D00]
Smith & Williamson YM-B 10th Witley (7), 20.07.2000

1.e4 c6 2.Nc3 d5 3.d4 dxe4 4.Bc4 Nf6 5.f3 exf3 6.Nxf3 e6 7.0-0 Nbd7 8.Qe2
Be7 9.Ne5 Nb6 10.Qf2 Nxc4 11.Nxc4 h6 12.Ne4 Qd5 13.Nxf6+ Bxf6 14.Ne5 Qd8
15.c3 Qe7 16.Ng4 Bg5 17.Ne5 Rf8 18.Bxg5 hxg5 19.Qf3 Bd7 20.Qh5 Rc8 21.Rxf7
Rxf7 22.Rf1 Kd8 23.Rxf7 Be8 24.Qh8 1-0

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Old July 14th 03, 06:48 AM
Fred Galvin
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On 14 Jul 2003, CeeBee wrote:

Lutton,J (2065) - Taylor,R (2119) [D00]
Smith & Williamson YM-B 10th Witley (7), 20.07.2000

1.e4 c6 2.Nc3 d5 3.d4 dxe4 4.Bc4 Nf6 5.f3 exf3 6.Nxf3 e6 7.0-0 Nbd7 8.Qe2
Be7 9.Ne5 Nb6 10.Qf2 Nxc4 11.Nxc4 h6 12.Ne4 Qd5 13.Nxf6+ Bxf6 14.Ne5 Qd8
15.c3 Qe7 16.Ng4 Bg5 17.Ne5 Rf8 18.Bxg5 hxg5 19.Qf3 Bd7 20.Qh5 Rc8 21.Rxf7
Rxf7 22.Rf1 Kd8 23.Rxf7 Be8 24.Qh8 1-0


Thanks!

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Old July 14th 03, 01:03 PM
Claus-Jürgen Heigl
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CeeBee wrote:

Lutton,J (2065) - Taylor,R (2119) [D00]
Smith & Williamson YM-B 10th Witley (7), 20.07.2000

1.e4 c6 2.Nc3 d5 3.d4 dxe4 4.Bc4 Nf6 5.f3 exf3 6.Nxf3 e6 7.0-0 Nbd7 8.Qe2
Be7 9.Ne5 Nb6 10.Qf2 Nxc4 11.Nxc4 h6 12.Ne4 Qd5 13.Nxf6+ Bxf6 14.Ne5 Qd8
15.c3 Qe7 16.Ng4 Bg5 17.Ne5 Rf8 18.Bxg5 hxg5 19.Qf3 Bd7 20.Qh5 Rc8 21.Rxf7
Rxf7 22.Rf1 Kd8 23.Rxf7 Be8 24.Qh8 1-0


Although I wonder why Black didn´t castle. In my opinion he should
have castled in move 11 or 12 with the last chance in move 15.

A plan for Black could have been 11...0-0 12. Bf4 c6 (or maybe
13...Ng4 14. Qd2 b6 intending Ba6) 13. Ne5 Bb7 14. Rad1 Qe8
and Black is ready to strike at the center with c5.

11...0-0 12. Ne5 (prevents c6) 12...Qc7 13. Bf4 Bd6 14. Qf3
(prevents c6 again) 14...Nd5 (threatens f6) 15. Nxd5 exd5 16. Rae1
(16. Bg3 f6; 16. Nd3 Bxf4) 16...Bf5 17. c4 (17. c3 Be4 18. Qg3 Rae8)
17...Be4 18. Qg3 f6.

With the Bc4 gone the black kingside is quite safe.

Claus-Juergen
 




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