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Old February 14th 04, 01:41 AM
Helpless
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Default HELP: Need nice opening moves for a screenplay

Hello Everyone,

I would love to get some help with my screenplay. I am writing a
scene where two lead characters are playing chess. I need some chess
moves that correspond to the dialogue. Of course, the person or
persons whose suggested moves make the film will get a thank you at
the End Credit. The following is the tentative dialogue, which can be
expanded. Chess moves will be inserted between the dialogue. SETUP:
Ma is a crime boss and Lee is his right hand man. Right before this
scene, Lee has just killed Ma's long time friend who has betrayed Ma.
Now, it is time to kill Ma's rival.

MA: Come in.

(LEE enters an empty room except for a chess table and two opposing
chairs. He takes a seat in front of MA.)

LEE: It's done.

MA: My patience has grown thin, and Lot has become an itch that must
scratched. What do you need?

LEE: I am not sure if anyone else has been tainted.

LEE: I'll erase him alone.

MA: Bring out your Queen and you risk everything.

LEE: Yes sir.

MA: You're just like your father. Bold. Unshakable. (Beat) Take
him down.

LEE: When?

MA: Tonight. He doesn't enjoy another night of sleep while Jimmy
rests.


So, here is the idea. I need a classic opening that
1) shows that these guys know how to play chess
2) includes an early Queen move that shows Lee's aggressive nature
3) Ma's counter that shows his conservative nature.

This scene is quite short and only needs a nice opening sequence of
moves. I wanted to seek your help because I would have to make
something up otherwise and hate to save avid chess players rip what I
come up with.

Thank you for even reading this long post and any help will be greatly
appreciated.

Tony Lee
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Old February 14th 04, 03:21 AM
JJNeet1
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Default HELP: Need nice opening moves for a screenplay

Well, the openings with the earliest queen moves, that are also decent
openings are the Center Game-1.e4 e5 2.d4 exd 3.Qxd4 Nc6 then 4.Qe3, or
Qa4......Thats a possibility if you want white's queen out early.
If its black's queen you want out early, theres the Center Counter
Defense-1.e4 d5 2.exd Qxd5 3.Nc3 Qa5 etc.

Jon Neet
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Old February 14th 04, 03:26 AM
mdamien
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Default Need nice opening moves for a screenplay

"Helpless" wrote in message
om...
Hello Everyone,

I would love to get some help with my screenplay. I am writing a
scene where two lead characters are playing chess. I need some chess
moves that correspond to the dialogue. Of course, the person or
persons whose suggested moves make the film will get a thank you at
the End Credit. The following is the tentative dialogue, which can be
expanded. Chess moves will be inserted between the dialogue. SETUP:
Ma is a crime boss and Lee is his right hand man. Right before this
scene, Lee has just killed Ma's long time friend who has betrayed Ma.
Now, it is time to kill Ma's rival.

MA: Come in.

(LEE enters an empty room except for a chess table and two opposing
chairs. He takes a seat in front of MA.)

LEE: It's done.

MA: My patience has grown thin, and Lot has become an itch that must
scratched. What do you need?

LEE: I am not sure if anyone else has been tainted.

LEE: I'll erase him alone.

MA: Bring out your Queen and you risk everything.

LEE: Yes sir.

MA: You're just like your father. Bold. Unshakable. (Beat) Take
him down.

LEE: When?

MA: Tonight. He doesn't enjoy another night of sleep while Jimmy
rests.


So, here is the idea. I need a classic opening that
1) shows that these guys know how to play chess
2) includes an early Queen move that shows Lee's aggressive nature
3) Ma's counter that shows his conservative nature.

This scene is quite short and only needs a nice opening sequence of
moves. I wanted to seek your help because I would have to make
something up otherwise and hate to save avid chess players rip what I
come up with.

Thank you for even reading this long post and any help will be greatly
appreciated.



[Event "North of Ireland Congress"]
[Site "Belfast"]
[Date "1892.09.12"]
[Round "4"]
[White "Mason,James"]
[Black "Lee,Francis Joseph"]
[Result "1/2"]
[Eco "B01"]
1.e4 d5 2.exd5 Qxd5 3.Nc3 Qd8 4.d4 c6 5.Nf3 Bg4 6.Be2 Bxf3 7.Bxf3 e6 8.Bf4
Nf6
9.Be5 Nbd7 10.0-0 Nxe5 11.dxe5 Qxd1 12.Bxd1 Nd7 13.f4 Be7 14.Bf3 0-0-0
15.Ne4 Nc5 16.Rfd1 Rxd1+
17.Rxd1 Nxe4 18.Bxe4 1/2



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Old February 14th 04, 07:19 AM
King Leopold
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I believe the Ryder Gambit is what you would like.
1.d4 d5 2.e4 dxe4 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.f3!? exf3 5.Qxf3

Its a bold opening! Bringing out the queen on the 5th move, early, but no so
much as in the center counter gambit.

Here's a quicky knockout with it: 5...Qxd4 6.Be3 Qb4 7.0-0-0 Bg4 8.Nb5 Bxf3
9.Nxc7# mate.
Leopold Lacrimosa


"Helpless" wrote in message
om...
Hello Everyone,

I would love to get some help with my screenplay. I am writing a
scene where two lead characters are playing chess. I need some chess
moves that correspond to the dialogue. Of course, the person or
persons whose suggested moves make the film will get a thank you at
the End Credit. The following is the tentative dialogue, which can be
expanded. Chess moves will be inserted between the dialogue. SETUP:
Ma is a crime boss and Lee is his right hand man. Right before this
scene, Lee has just killed Ma's long time friend who has betrayed Ma.
Now, it is time to kill Ma's rival.

MA: Come in.

(LEE enters an empty room except for a chess table and two opposing
chairs. He takes a seat in front of MA.)

LEE: It's done.

MA: My patience has grown thin, and Lot has become an itch that must
scratched. What do you need?

LEE: I am not sure if anyone else has been tainted.

LEE: I'll erase him alone.

MA: Bring out your Queen and you risk everything.

LEE: Yes sir.

MA: You're just like your father. Bold. Unshakable. (Beat) Take
him down.

LEE: When?

MA: Tonight. He doesn't enjoy another night of sleep while Jimmy
rests.


So, here is the idea. I need a classic opening that
1) shows that these guys know how to play chess
2) includes an early Queen move that shows Lee's aggressive nature
3) Ma's counter that shows his conservative nature.

This scene is quite short and only needs a nice opening sequence of
moves. I wanted to seek your help because I would have to make
something up otherwise and hate to save avid chess players rip what I
come up with.

Thank you for even reading this long post and any help will be greatly
appreciated.

Tony Lee



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Old February 14th 04, 02:56 PM
Claus-Jürgen Heigl
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Default HELP: Need nice opening moves for a screenplay

Helpless wrote:

Hello Everyone,

I would love to get some help with my screenplay. I am writing a
scene where two lead characters are playing chess. I need some chess
moves that correspond to the dialogue. Of course, the person or
persons whose suggested moves make the film will get a thank you at
the End Credit.


This scene is quite short and only needs a nice opening sequence of
moves. I wanted to seek your help because I would have to make
something up otherwise and hate to save avid chess players rip what I
come up with.

Thank you for even reading this long post and any help will be greatly
appreciated.


I always liked to be in the movies.

Since Ma is the Boss and Lee comes second I think Lee should have
Black.

A while ago we discussed a line in the Vienna game which is ultra
aggressive, involves a piece sacrifice (does Lee like to sacrifice own
men in pursuit of his ambitions?), an early queen attack and is
actually dangerous. It may suit you because the second move from White
is looking defensive.

1. e4 e5 2. Nc3 Nc6 3. f4 Bc5 4. Nf3 exf4 5. d4 Nxd4 6. Nxd4 Qh4+ 7.
Ke2
d5 8. h3 Nf6

This line is untested in tournament play. If you need more moves you
will find some analysis he

http://groups.google.de/groups?hl=de...com%26rnum%3D3

Classical is the early queen attack in the King's Gambit but you can't
exactly say this opening is defensive in natu

1. e4 e5 2. f4 exf4 3. Bc4 Qh4+ 4. Kf1. The "Immortal Game" between
Anderssen and Kieseritzky continued 4...b5 5. Bxb5 6. Nf3 Qh6 7. d3
Nh5 8. Nh4 Qg5. Anderssen (White) won after he sacrificed both of his
rooks and the queen.

A lot more strategic is an opening called The Vultu

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 c5 3. d5 Ne4 4. f3 Qa5+ for example 5. Nd2 Nd6 6. e4
g6

Another aggressive opening for Black is the Latvian:

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 f5 3. Nxe5 Qf6 4. Nc4 fxe4 5. Nc3 Qg6 6. d3 or
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 f5 3. Bc4 fxe4 4. Nxe5 Qg5 (not sound) 5. d4 Qxg2 6.
Qh5+

Others have mentioned the Scandinavian where the Black queen is in
danger to be chased around after the initial attack:

1. e4 d5 2. exd5 Qxd5 3. Nc3.

A line in the Scotch:

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. d4 exd4 4. Qh4
This has been played by the former world champion Steinitz (among
others), so it is not entirely bogus. His adversary, Chigorin, won the
game but subsequentially used it on his own against other players,
scoring 3 points out of 4.

Regards

Claus-Juergen
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Old February 16th 04, 04:31 AM
SEdwardWilson
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Default HELP: Need nice opening moves for a screenplay

Center Counter -

Steve Wilson
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Old February 16th 04, 05:28 AM
Martin
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Default HELP: Need nice opening moves for a screenplay

Claus-Jürgen Heigl wrote:
Helpless wrote:

Hello Everyone,

I would love to get some help with my screenplay. I am writing a
scene where two lead characters are playing chess. I need some chess
moves that correspond to the dialogue. Of course, the person or
persons whose suggested moves make the film will get a thank you at
the End Credit.



This scene is quite short and only needs a nice opening sequence of
moves. I wanted to seek your help because I would have to make
something up otherwise and hate to save avid chess players rip what I
come up with.

Thank you for even reading this long post and any help will be greatly
appreciated.



I always liked to be in the movies.

Since Ma is the Boss and Lee comes second I think Lee should have
Black.

A while ago we discussed a line in the Vienna game which is ultra
aggressive, involves a piece sacrifice (does Lee like to sacrifice own
men in pursuit of his ambitions?), an early queen attack and is
actually dangerous. It may suit you because the second move from White
is looking defensive.

1. e4 e5 2. Nc3 Nc6 3. f4 Bc5 4. Nf3 exf4 5. d4 Nxd4 6. Nxd4 Qh4+ 7.
Ke2
d5 8. h3 Nf6

This line is untested in tournament play. If you need more moves you
will find some analysis he

http://groups.google.de/groups?hl=de...com%26rnum%3D3

Classical is the early queen attack in the King's Gambit but you can't
exactly say this opening is defensive in natu

1. e4 e5 2. f4 exf4 3. Bc4 Qh4+ 4. Kf1. The "Immortal Game" between
Anderssen and Kieseritzky continued 4...b5 5. Bxb5 6. Nf3 Qh6 7. d3
Nh5 8. Nh4 Qg5. Anderssen (White) won after he sacrificed both of his
rooks and the queen.

A lot more strategic is an opening called The Vultu

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 c5 3. d5 Ne4 4. f3 Qa5+ for example 5. Nd2 Nd6 6. e4
g6

Another aggressive opening for Black is the Latvian:

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 f5 3. Nxe5 Qf6 4. Nc4 fxe4 5. Nc3 Qg6 6. d3 or
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 f5 3. Bc4 fxe4 4. Nxe5 Qg5 (not sound) 5. d4 Qxg2 6.
Qh5+

Others have mentioned the Scandinavian where the Black queen is in
danger to be chased around after the initial attack:

1. e4 d5 2. exd5 Qxd5 3. Nc3.

A line in the Scotch:

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. d4 exd4 4. Qh4
This has been played by the former world champion Steinitz (among
others), so it is not entirely bogus. His adversary, Chigorin, won the
game but subsequentially used it on his own against other players,
scoring 3 points out of 4.


That could be a good choice if the conservative guy is going to lose.
As black gets a very good game if white doesn't react energetically.

/M.
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Old February 16th 04, 09:39 AM
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Pick me! Pick me! I want to be in the movies!
Oh, please pick me. Pleasssssssseeeeee!



"Helpless" wrote in message
om...
Hello Everyone,

I would love to get some help with my screenplay. I am writing a
scene where two lead characters are playing chess. I need some chess
moves that correspond to the dialogue. Of course, the person or
persons whose suggested moves make the film will get a thank you at
the End Credit. The following is the tentative dialogue, which can be
expanded. Chess moves will be inserted between the dialogue. SETUP:
Ma is a crime boss and Lee is his right hand man. Right before this
scene, Lee has just killed Ma's long time friend who has betrayed Ma.
Now, it is time to kill Ma's rival.

MA: Come in.

(LEE enters an empty room except for a chess table and two opposing
chairs. He takes a seat in front of MA.)

LEE: It's done.

MA: My patience has grown thin, and Lot has become an itch that must
scratched. What do you need?

LEE: I am not sure if anyone else has been tainted.

LEE: I'll erase him alone.

MA: Bring out your Queen and you risk everything.

LEE: Yes sir.

MA: You're just like your father. Bold. Unshakable. (Beat) Take
him down.

LEE: When?

MA: Tonight. He doesn't enjoy another night of sleep while Jimmy
rests.


So, here is the idea. I need a classic opening that
1) shows that these guys know how to play chess
2) includes an early Queen move that shows Lee's aggressive nature
3) Ma's counter that shows his conservative nature.

This scene is quite short and only needs a nice opening sequence of
moves. I wanted to seek your help because I would have to make
something up otherwise and hate to save avid chess players rip what I
come up with.

Thank you for even reading this long post and any help will be greatly
appreciated.

Tony Lee



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Old February 16th 04, 11:14 AM
Wilma
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It's a Queen's Gambit Accepted. Lee plays white. Ma takes the pawn. Lee
checks with his Q. Ma touches her Bishop with her fingers and makes
masturbatory movements on it as she says what she says about the Q. Lee
takes his move back and plays e3.

Wilma,
who understands that there are only 6 degrees of separation between herself
and Shakespeare.

"Helpless" wrote in message
om...
Hello Everyone,

I would love to get some help with my screenplay. I am writing a
scene where two lead characters are playing chess. I need some chess
moves that correspond to the dialogue. Of course, the person or
persons whose suggested moves make the film will get a thank you at
the End Credit. The following is the tentative dialogue, which can be
expanded. Chess moves will be inserted between the dialogue. SETUP:
Ma is a crime boss and Lee is his right hand man. Right before this
scene, Lee has just killed Ma's long time friend who has betrayed Ma.
Now, it is time to kill Ma's rival.

MA: Come in.

(LEE enters an empty room except for a chess table and two opposing
chairs. He takes a seat in front of MA.)

LEE: It's done.

MA: My patience has grown thin, and Lot has become an itch that must
scratched. What do you need?

LEE: I am not sure if anyone else has been tainted.

LEE: I'll erase him alone.

MA: Bring out your Queen and you risk everything.

LEE: Yes sir.

MA: You're just like your father. Bold. Unshakable. (Beat) Take
him down.

LEE: When?

MA: Tonight. He doesn't enjoy another night of sleep while Jimmy
rests.


So, here is the idea. I need a classic opening that
1) shows that these guys know how to play chess
2) includes an early Queen move that shows Lee's aggressive nature
3) Ma's counter that shows his conservative nature.

This scene is quite short and only needs a nice opening sequence of
moves. I wanted to seek your help because I would have to make
something up otherwise and hate to save avid chess players rip what I
come up with.

Thank you for even reading this long post and any help will be greatly
appreciated.

Tony Lee



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Old February 16th 04, 07:25 PM
Ron
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Default HELP: Need nice opening moves for a screenplay

In article ,
Claus-Jurgen Heigl wrote:


A line in the Scotch:

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. d4 exd4 4. Qh4


I think this is a great choice, because unlike the center-counter, it's
a line where the queen raid is a rational, but aggressive choice. The
only problem is that white's followups won't reveal his "conservative"
nature-- except insomuch as the early queen check is the sort of thing
that makes some weaker player panic, and the actor could reveal his
nature by being methodical and rational about his responses-- e.g., let
the actor convey the conservatism.

Anything happening on the chessboard will be lost on the vast majority
of the film's audience, anyway.
 




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