I believe the new 1.500.000 games DB at

http://www.chesslib.no to be the best collection

of chess games ever published for free.



The database is available in Scid-, PGN- and

CBV-format.



-af-

"ChessliB" wrote in message
news:e8O%b.2094$EV2.8060@amstwist00...
I believe the new 1.500.000 games DB at

http://www.chesslib.no to be the best collection
--snip--

Opening report:

Database: MainDB-Light (1,500,000 games)
Report: (1500000 games)
Generated by Scid 3.5, 2004.02.25


Oldest games
1: 0-1(54) Steinitz -- Lasker, New York/Philadelfia () 1894
2: 1-0(44) Lasker -- Steinitz, New York/Philadelfia () 1894
3: 1-0(46) Steinitz -- Lasker, New York/Philadelfia () 1894
4: 0-1(55) Lasker -- Steinitz, New York/Philadelfia () 1894
5: =-=(61) Steinitz -- Lasker, New York/Philadelfia () 1894

Newest games
1: =-=(35) Shirov 2710 -- Jussupow 2660, GER 1995
2: =-=(25) Short 2655 -- Kasparov 2805, Amsterdam NED 1994.05.19
3: 1-0(30) Kasparov 2805 -- Timman 2620, Amsterdam NED 1994.05.17
4: 1-0(39) Ivanchuk 2710 -- Kasparov 2805, Amsterdam NED 1994.05.16
5: 0-1(40) Timman 2620 -- Kasparov 2805, Amsterdam NED 1994.05.14

Most frequent players (White)
1: 268 1974-1994 69% 2805 Kasparov, Gary
2: 261 1964-1994 60% 2755 Karpov, Anatoly
3: 107 1948-1994 53% 2695 Korchnoi, Viktor L
4: 96 1957-1972 63% 2785 Fischer, Robert J
5: 89 1946-1971 55% 2640 Petrosian, Tigran V
6: 85 1954-1977 52% 2620 Tal, Mikhail N

Most frequent players (Black)
1: 300 1973-1994 59% 2805 Kasparov, Gary
2: 258 1962-1994 48% 2775 Karpov, Anatoly
3: 107 1956-1972 60% 2785 Fischer, Robert J
4: 99 1946-1991 45% 2695 Korchnoi, Viktor L
5: 92 1952-1979 44% 2640 Petrosian, Tigran V
6: 86 1954-1988 38% 2705 Tal, Mikhail N

Games with highest average rating
1: =-=(41) Kasparov 2805 -- Karpov 2740, Linares ESP 1994
2: 1-0(42) Kasparov 2800 -- Karpov 2730, New York, NY USA 1990
3: 1-0(44) Kasparov 2800 -- Karpov 2730, Lyon/New York 1990
4: =-=(40) Kasparov 2800 -- Karpov 2730, Lyon/New York 1990
5: =-=(43) Kasparov 2800 -- Karpov 2730, Lyon/New York 1990
6: 1-0(57) Kasparov 2800 -- Karpov 2730, Lyon/New York 1990
7: =-=(40) Kasparov 2800 -- Karpov 2730, ? 1990
8: =-=(41) Kasparov 2800 -- Karpov 2730, Lyon/New York 1990

Shortest wins (White)
1: 1-0(10) Kasparov 2720 -- Karpov 2700, 08, Wch London 1986
2: 1-0(10) Anand 2710 -- Ivanchuk 2710, 3 Linares 1993
3: 1-0(10) Fischer -- Fine, New York, NY USA 1963
4: 1-0(11) Benjamin 2585 -- Kasparov 2805, ? 1993
5: 1-0(11) Alekhine -- Euwe, Ch World (match) 1935

Shortest wins (Black)
1: 0-1(11) Karpov 2720 -- Kasparov 2715, 24, Wch 1985
2: 0-1(11) Short 2650 -- Kasparov 2775, Belgrade SCG 1989
3: 0-1(13) Ljubojevic 2590 -- Kasparov 2800, Linares ;CBM 22 1991
4: 0-1(13) Karpov 2720 -- Timman 2655, Mar del Plata ARG 1982
5: 0-1(15) Timman 2630 -- Kasparov 2800, Tilburg NED 1991

Moves from the report position
Move ECO Frequency Score AvElo Perf AvYear %Draws
1: e4 B00a 733072: 48.8% 54.3% 2350 2385 1980 28%
2: d4 A40a 485860: 32.3% 55.4% 2379 2410 1981 31%
3: c4 A10 117326: 7.8% 55.1% 2390 2412 1982 32%
4: Nf3 A04 116569: 7.7% 55.3% 2388 2416 1982 35%
5: g3 A00t 11829: 0.7% 54.6% 2375 2403 1984 34%
6: f4 A02 10855: 0.7% 49.0% 2262 2286 1978 23%
7: b4 A00p 10378: 0.6% 52.0% 2173 2216 1985 19%
8: b3 A01 5908: 0.3% 51.0% 2335 2345 1985 27%
9: Nc3 A00l 3846: 0.2% 55.4% 2298 2352 1986 25%
10: g4 A00n 1335: 0.0% 51.7% 2244 2331 1984 14%
11: e3 A00k 1071: 0.0% 47.5% 2276 2303 1973 24%
12: d3 A00j 664: 0.0% 49.6% 2299 2318 1983 25%
13: a3 A00f 500: 0.0% 47.8% 2257 2301 1978 22%
14: c3 A00i 371: 0.0% 53.5% 2298 2356 1981 26%
15: h3 A00d 108: 0.0% 50.9% 2303 2332 1987 20%
16: h4 A00c 98: 0.0% 58.1% 2304 2375 1986 16%
17: Nh3 A00g 90: 0.0% 48.8% 2310 1983 9%
18: f3 A00b 47: 0.0% 61.7% 1978 9%
19: Na3 A00h 40: 0.0% 66.2% 1981 13%
20: a4 A00e 33: 0.0% 51.5% 1981 18%
__________________________________________________ _____________
TOTAL: 1500000:100.0% 54.7% 2367 2402 1981 30%

Positional Themes
Frequency of themes in the first 20 moves of each game:
Same-side castling: 67% White Isolated Queen Pawn: 9%
Opposite castling: 10% Black Isolated Queen Pawn: 8%
Kingside pawn storm: 13% White Pawn on 5/6/7th rank: 56%
Queens exchanged: 41% Black Pawn on 2/3/4th rank: 35%
Only one side has Bishop pair: 7% Open c/d/e file: 52%

Endgames
Material at the end of each game:
P BN R R,BN Q Q,BN Q,R Q,R,BN
Report games 2% 9% 8% 25% 2% 4% 4% 45%
All games 2% 9% 8% 25% 2% 4% 4% 45%

Dear Chesslib, I am interested in two items from your statistics:-

Most frequent players (White)
1: 268 1974-1994 69% 2805 Kasparov, Gary
2: 261 1964-1994 60% 2755 Karpov, Anatoly
3: 107 1948-1994 53% 2695 Korchnoi, Viktor L
4: 96 1957-1972 63% 2785 Fischer, Robert J
5: 89 1946-1971 55% 2640 Petrosian, Tigran V
6: 85 1954-1977 52% 2620 Tal, Mikhail N

Does this mean %age won as White?

Most frequent players (Black)
1: 300 1973-1994 59% 2805 Kasparov, Gary
2: 258 1962-1994 48% 2775 Karpov, Anatoly
3: 107 1956-1972 60% 2785 Fischer, Robert J
4: 99 1946-1991 45% 2695 Korchnoi, Viktor L
5: 92 1952-1979 44% 2640 Petrosian, Tigran V
6: 86 1954-1988 38% 2705 Tal, Mikhail N

and does this mean %age won as Black?

If so that this would give Kasparov 128%/2 versus the nearest opponent
Fischer 123%/2. These two far ahead of the next nearest Karpov 108%/2.

Cordially, Phil Innes

Hello,

I downloaded the free database in CBV. format. Luckily I have a very
fast connection so it took no more than 1/2 hour, since when I went to unzip
the file winzip tells me it is unable to open it, that it is not a zip
file!? Yet checking the dos name and what not it certainly appears to
be...winzip has given me no problems before, I unzip chess files all the
time. Any idea whats going on here?

Thanks

"Phil Innes" wrote in message
...
Dear Chesslib, I am interested in two items from your statistics:-

--snip--
and does this mean %age won as Black?

If so that this would give Kasparov 128%/2 versus the nearest opponent
Fischer 123%/2. These two far ahead of the next nearest Karpov 108%/2.

Cordially, Phil Innes

The opening report is generated using Scid;
Scid use a subset of games from the database
to generate the player report. For more information
on how Scid is generating reports, you can download
the software (http://scid.sourceforge.net/) and consult
the program's help-file.

Best regards
-af-

"gorkov43" wrote in message
...
Hello,

I downloaded the free database in CBV. format. Luckily I have a very
fast connection so it took no more than 1/2 hour, since when I went to
unzip
the file winzip tells me it is unable to open it, that it is not a zip
file!? Yet checking the dos name and what not it certainly appears to
be...winzip has given me no problems before, I unzip chess files all the
time. Any idea whats going on here?

Thanks

The file is OK - there is nothing wrong with the archive.

I just downloaded the file to make sure.

-af-

Dear chessfriends,

additional to the very good ChessLib there are many other free databases
on the net which fit very different needs (large databases, computer
chess, annotated games, correspondence chess and lots more).
An attempt to log all that activity can found at:
http://www.chessgameslinks.lars-balzer.info
Millions of free downloadable games are waiting there!

ciao
Lars


ChessliB schrieb:
I believe the new 1.500.000 games DB at

http://www.chesslib.no to be the best collection

of chess games ever published for free.



The database is available in Scid-, PGN- and

CBV-format.



-af-



--
Lars Balzer
Webmaster of ChessGamesLinks
Linkcollection to free downloadable chessgames
http://www.chessgameslinks.lars-balzer.info

ChessliB wrote:
I believe the new 1.500.000 games DB at

http://www.chesslib.no to be the best collection

of chess games ever published for free.


The best one ?

The published report (from Chesslib site!) shows that the newest games
are from 1994-5 !!! :

Newest games
1: =-=(35) Shirov 2710 -- Jussupow 2660, GER 1995
2: =-=(25) Short 2655 -- Kasparov 2805, Amsterdam NED 1994.05.19
3: 1-0(30) Kasparov 2805 -- Timman 2620, Amsterdam NED 1994.05.17
4: 1-0(39) Ivanchuk 2710 -- Kasparov 2805, Amsterdam NED 1994.05.16
5: 0-1(40) Timman 2620 -- Kasparov 2805, Amsterdam NED 1994.05.14

And regarding the main commercial Chesslib database, its quality seems
to be rather poor. It was an interesting base as long as it was free.

I could not recommend to buy it.

It's not just an opinion.

I compared some of its published features (from
http://www.chesslib.no/reportmain.htm) with those of my main personal
database which has been assembled from various sources over the years :

Chesslib My base DIFF
----------------------------------------------
All report games 3217428 1214976

Both rated 2600+ 18545 24007 + 29 %
Both rated 2500+ 97560 109129 + 12 %
Both rated 2400+ 311316 322391 + 04 %
Both rated 2300+ 583671 590823 + 01 %

So Cheeslib is significantly incomplete as regards its selection of
master games. And it provides more than 2,500,000 weak players games.

A very good bargain indeed ...

For those who wish to build a very good database for free, all the
required stuff is available on those wonderful sites who did not go
commercial (The Week in Chess, Lars Balzer's site).

So please, Mr Fredriksen, stop trying to sell your mediocre stuff in
chess newsgroups by mean of a ridiculous free offer!

Marc Lacrosse

For those who wish to build a very good database for free, all the
required stuff is available on those wonderful sites who did not go
commercial (The Week in Chess, Lars Balzer's site).

So please, Mr Fredriksen, stop trying to sell your mediocre stuff in
chess newsgroups by mean of a ridiculous free offer!

Besides TWIC, what is another good site for games? For instance games that TWIC
does NOT have? That is the main source for the games in my database. I've been
collecting them since 1995. Any help is appreciated.

Regards,
Jeff

"Mogath3" wrote in message
...
Besides TWIC, what is another good site for games? For instance games that
TWIC
does NOT have? That is the main source for the games in my database. I've
been
collecting them since 1995. Any help is appreciated.

Regards,
Jeff

Jeff,

Among others:

LesEchecs.com, at:
http://www.lesechecs.com/cgi-bin/jou...gi?folder=week

Montagspartien, at:
http://www.chess-international.de/download/partien.htm

However, like the games at TWIC, you have to do a
little work on the games in order to uniform the player
names, tournaments, places etc. to have your database
look something like the games in this file:
(ChessliB's latest update-file, 14 174 games - PGN/zip)
http://www.chesslib.no/updatefiles/C...date1-2004.zip
(Available for free for the next 48h).

If you like to build your own database, a good start is
to download ChessliB's free database, 1 500 000 games
for the years 1485-1995 and add your own downloads.

You will not find ELO ratings in games played before
1970 in any of my databases - the reason is that FIDE
adopted professor Elo's rating system in 1970.

You can find more download sources at:
http://www.schackportalen.nu and at:
http://www.chessgameslinks.lars-balzer.info/

Best regards
-af-