(BernardZ wrote in message ws.com...
Has anyone here tried to use them and what sort of issues did it bring
up.

I suspect that most people who play CC are doing so because they like
sitting around thinking about chess positions and working out moves
and variations on their own. At least that's why I do it.

I'm not sure why someone would be playing CC if they wanted to use a
computer. It's not like you get massive cash prizes for winning CC
games.

And if your ego is such that you simply can't stand to lose a game of
CC, then you have bigger problems to worry about.

I noticed that one writer said that now far fewer
mistakes are make in CC chess now. This suggests to me that many are
using computers.

I play allot of CC and I believe the reason the games are better because:
databases, books, news and general information about the latest
lines are so freely available. Players have to remember this is not normal
chess, just like speed chess it has it's own set of rules.
Most CC players would never use a computer to just generate a move (what
would be the point) if you want to find new ideas in
opening review the CC games. (when you have the time you can try almost
anything).
Example: I played a great game (which I lost) that followed Karpov ideas in
the Caro Kann for about 30 moves and then I
moved into another area of thought because I believed it had interesting
possibilities. Did I use a computer during the game NO, did I use one
after the game YES and what did this all mighty computer tell me, NOTHING.
The machine had no clue of what I was planning and thought I
was winning up to the point I lost.
My point is, not to assume computers are being used just because the games
are of higher quality.



"BernardZ" wrote in message
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says...
There is another way to use the computer during CC games, which
is not prohibited.


And CC players do use them. I am also sure that in the real world that
many do ask their friends. Also many do use a computer to check their
ideas up. For example, I noticed that one writer said that now far fewer
mistakes are make in CC chess now. This suggests to me that many are
using computers.

In article , barryb79
@shaw.ca says...
I noticed that one writer said that now far fewer
mistakes are make in CC chess now. This suggests to me that many are
using computers.

I play allot of CC and I believe the reason the games are better because:
databases, books, news and general information about the latest
lines are so freely available.


True but this has little to do with mistakes.

Players have to remember this is not normal
chess, just like speed chess it has it's own set of rules.
Most CC players would never use a computer to just generate a move (what
would be the point) if you want to find new ideas in
opening review the CC games. (when you have the time you can try almost
anything).Example: I played a great game (which I lost) that followed Karpov ideas in
the Caro Kann for about 30 moves and then I
moved into another area of thought because I believed it had interesting
possibilities. Did I use a computer during the game NO, did I use one
after the game YES and what did this all mighty computer tell me, NOTHING.
The machine had no clue of what I was planning and thought I
was winning up to the point I lost.


My understanding is that the more time a person has to think about the
move, the better people play compared to computers.


I notice reviewing my games that sometimes I can see lines that Fritz
should have used but did not properly consider. So if I used my brain
and Fritz and played another player with his brain and Fritz, I think we
could have quite an interesting game. I would be interested in seeing
whether a human player and Fritz would be better then just Fritz or the
human player. I suspect that the answer is yes.


My point is, not to assume computers are being used just because the games
are of higher quality.



"BernardZ" wrote in message
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In article ,
says...
There is another way to use the computer during CC games, which
is not prohibited.


And CC players do use them. I am also sure that in the real world that
many do ask their friends. Also many do use a computer to check their
ideas up. For example, I noticed that one writer said that now far fewer
mistakes are make in CC chess now. This suggests to me that many are
using computers.

In article MPG.19bf45e36d494f6e98971d@news,
BernardZ remove OPTUS wrote:


I notice reviewing my games that sometimes I can see lines that Fritz
should have used but did not properly consider. So if I used my brain
and Fritz and played another player with his brain and Fritz, I think we
could have quite an interesting game. I would be interested in seeing
whether a human player and Fritz would be better then just Fritz or the
human player. I suspect that the answer is yes.

This seems obvious to me, as long as the difference between the humans
and the computers is not too great. As a matter of fact, I believe it
was kasparov who predicted that the future of chess resides in
computer-aided chess. I would agree, and the games should be really
great with top-ranked players.

It is clear that if the players are rated say 1200, then the result
would be the same as if the computers were playing alone.

Just imagine a game with Nimzovich aided by a computer, where Nimzovich,
who would probably have been World champion except for his nervousness,
can relax and concentrate on strategy because the computer would point
out any calculating errors.

Henri