DGT Chess Board

I was looking at this board on the companies web site and it looks
like a really cool product, but a quite prohibative price tag. I was
wondering if this is a new product that can be expected to drop in
price over time (as is the case with most electronics) or if this is a
well-established product that will continue selling at the current
prices for the near future.

(Curtis Thetford) wrote in rec.games.chess.computer:

I was looking at this board on the companies web site and it looks
like a really cool product, but a quite prohibative price tag. I was
wondering if this is a new product that can be expected to drop in
price over time (as is the case with most electronics) or if this is a
well-established product that will continue selling at the current
prices for the near future.



I have mine from 1999 on and by then it already was an established
product, so prices won't necessarily drop according to the mechanism you
suggest.

Worth every penny, though.

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What do you actually use it for? I happened to be looking at this thing
the other day myself, and while its utility for broadcasting or
recording OTB games is obvious, using it to play against a computer,
where you have to move the computer's pieces for him, seemed less
valuable to me. Is it just personal preference for moving pieces over
clicking a mouse?

CeeBee wrote:
(Curtis Thetford) wrote in rec.games.chess.computer:


I was looking at this board on the companies web site and it looks
like a really cool product, but a quite prohibative price tag. I was
wondering if this is a new product that can be expected to drop in
price over time (as is the case with most electronics) or if this is a
well-established product that will continue selling at the current
prices for the near future.




I have mine from 1999 on and by then it already was an established
product, so prices won't necessarily drop according to the mechanism you
suggest.

Worth every penny, though.

DJV wrote in rec.games.chess.computer:

What do you actually use it for? I happened to be looking at this
thing the other day myself, and while its utility for broadcasting or
recording OTB games is obvious, using it to play against a computer,
where you have to move the computer's pieces for him, seemed less
valuable to me. Is it just personal preference for moving pieces over
clicking a mouse?


Yes, I prefer playing on an actual board instead of on a screen.
With a laptop (or even with a PPC) you can move around and play chess at
any place you like, on an actual, normal sized board.

The board is _not_ suitable (enough) for analysis and inputting lots of
variations. It's most of all suited for playing.

You _can_ use it for simply recording moves when you play against someone
OTB; and for broadcasting indeed, yet _I_ fail to see who would be
interested in broadcasts of _my_ games....

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From: CeeBee
Date: 03/09/03 02:05 GMT Daylight Time
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DJV wrote in rec.games.chess.computer:

What do you actually use it for? I happened to be looking at this
thing the other day myself, and while its utility for broadcasting or
recording OTB games is obvious, using it to play against a computer,
where you have to move the computer's pieces for him, seemed less
valuable to me. Is it just personal preference for moving pieces over
clicking a mouse?


Yes, I prefer playing on an actual board instead of on a screen.
With a laptop (or even with a PPC) you can move around and play chess at
any place you like, on an actual, normal sized board.

The board is _not_ suitable (enough) for analysis and inputting lots of
variations. It's most of all suited for playing.

You _can_ use it for simply recording moves when you play against someone
OTB; and for broadcasting indeed, yet _I_ fail to see who would be
interested in broadcasts of _my_ games....


Indeed. I could say the same about my own games.

I will say this, however:

Although I would not be interested in broadcasts of _your_ games, I might just
be interested in broadcasts of your opponents' games against you....

Mark

I saw a note in the owners manual (which DGT makes available through
their website) indicating that the board should not be used near (i.e.
w/in 2.5 in. of) metal, including the metal structure of the table it's
sitting on. I have a desk w/ a one inch wood top and metal bracing
immediately beneath. Have you ever had trouble with that kind of thing?
(Sorry for all the questions -- just curious.)

CeeBee wrote:
DJV wrote in rec.games.chess.computer:


What do you actually use it for? I happened to be looking at this
thing the other day myself, and while its utility for broadcasting or
recording OTB games is obvious, using it to play against a computer,
where you have to move the computer's pieces for him, seemed less
valuable to me. Is it just personal preference for moving pieces over
clicking a mouse?



Yes, I prefer playing on an actual board instead of on a screen.
With a laptop (or even with a PPC) you can move around and play chess at
any place you like, on an actual, normal sized board.

The board is _not_ suitable (enough) for analysis and inputting lots of
variations. It's most of all suited for playing.

You _can_ use it for simply recording moves when you play against someone
OTB; and for broadcasting indeed, yet _I_ fail to see who would be
interested in broadcasts of _my_ games....

Hi,

It's true, you should try to test that first. Also your computer should be
too close to the board,
some laptops interfere but placing them a bit away helps, there is 10 meter
cable to connect the board.

In my experience for laptops keep them about 30 centimeters away..

Regards,

Rob.

"DJV" wrote in message
...
I saw a note in the owners manual (which DGT makes available through
their website) indicating that the board should not be used near (i.e.
w/in 2.5 in. of) metal, including the metal structure of the table it's
sitting on. I have a desk w/ a one inch wood top and metal bracing
immediately beneath. Have you ever had trouble with that kind of thing?
(Sorry for all the questions -- just curious.)

"Rob" wrote in message
l.nl...
Hi,

It's true, you should try to test that first. Also your computer should be
too close to the board,

Grrr NOT be to close

On Wed, 3 Sep 2003 12:43:07 +0200, "Rob" wrote:

Hi,

It's on the market for a couple of years now. I don't think prices will get
really lower. (Paid Euro 330,-- in March of this year).
I play at least 20 games a day, and looking at a real chessboard is the big
benefit for me, and the fact that the arm I use for my mouse doesn't hurt
anymore ;-)

I play better with the board then I do when playing on screen, that's a fact
too, I just don't have a good overview on a monitor, but that is a personal
problem of course, many guys play excellent on their machines, I am just not
one of them.

Regards,

Rob.



"Curtis Thetford" wrote in message
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I was looking at this board on the companies web site and it looks
like a really cool product, but a quite prohibative price tag. I was
wondering if this is a new product that can be expected to drop in
price over time (as is the case with most electronics) or if this is a
well-established product that will continue selling at the current
prices for the near future.



I, too, find playing on the screen actually makes me worse. I thought
the 3D boards in CM9K (the vinyl roll up espescially) would help but
only marginally. I have started setting up a board next to my computer
and making all the moves on the real board also. I give myself an
extra 5 min in time to make up for having to move the computer pieces
on the board and entering my moves in the computer.
Did anyone with a DGT board do this before getting a DGT and does the
DGT make it a LOT easier. $400 is a good chunk of change, but hey,
I've got a birthday and Christmas coming up and my wife is always
asking what I want. I just wonder how much better it would be than my
current system.


Patzerseescheck

"What is hateful to you, do not to your freind. This is the entire Torah. The rest is commentary. Go forth and learn."
Hillel the Elder, First Cent. B.C.E.

Hi,

I always used a board next to the screen. Basically the DGT board is the
same but saving time, you have direct input on the computer (On the other
hand you have to do the opponents move too on the board). But is this worth
that amount of money?

When I stopped as a youth leader for our chess club I got money to buy one
( the parents raised it for me). Would I have done it otherwise, I seriously
doubt that. I don't play blitz games, so I have all the time to do on a
separate board what I want.

Would I miss the DGT board, I surely would! Actually I consider it pure
luxury to have one.

I can imagine however that playing on ICC with the board gives Blitz
possibilities. Another thing is with the DGT board mouse errors are history
;-)

Regards,

Rob.


"Patzerseescheck" wrote in message
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On Wed, 3 Sep 2003 12:43:07 +0200, "Rob" wrote:
-=SNIP=-
I have started setting up a board next to my computer
and making all the moves on the real board also. I give myself an
extra 5 min in time to make up for having to move the computer pieces
on the board and entering my moves in the computer.
Did anyone with a DGT board do this before getting a DGT and does the
DGT make it a LOT easier. $400 is a good chunk of change, but hey,