I'd be interested to see how Kramnik vs Kasparov would go if they played
the chess variant Anywhere. In this version, on one board with same
setup, each side can move or drop any piece except the king onto any
vacant square. The rule is this: to capture the enemy piece the player
must utilize the pieces normal power.

For example, in the initial setup...one can move the bishop (either one)
to the f4 square (bishops can change color in this variant). Black then
attacks the bishop with its rook (any one) by placing it on the f6
square. Now White must move the bishop away otherwise the Black rook can
capture the bishop by going Rf4. White can move its attacked bishop to
any vacant square on the board. For instance in my example, the bishop
can move to b3. But this bishop can only capture using its diagonal
power as per its original ability. Understand? Rooks capture by using
its normal power...as any other piece can do the same with the original
power of that piece in question. The king is the weakest piece on the
board as it can only move in one square in any direction at a time. It
cannot jump over any other piece or square except for castling which is
still allowed provided the squares are vacant and not attacked by
opposing pieces.

The only caveat to this variant is that the pawns can't move to the last
rank of the opponsing camp to queen right away. Pawns can be dropped
anywhere up to the 7th rank as long as the square in question is vacant.
But to promote, the pawns must promote normally. En passant capture by
the pawn is still allowed provided the same rule applies to en passant
in original version of chess.

Believe me, chess computer software will NEVER be able to master this
kind of chess because you have to use strict intuition. And memorizing
theory in this variant of chess is absolutely impossible. The number of
combinations right from this variant is almost impossible to calculate.
But watching Kramnik play Kasparov in this chess variant would be lots
of fun to see!

Alberich wrote in message ...
I'd be interested to see how Kramnik vs Kasparov would go if they played
the chess variant Anywhere. In this version, on one board with same
setup, each side can move or drop any piece except the king onto any
vacant square. The rule is this: to capture the enemy piece the player
must utilize the pieces normal power.

For example, in the initial setup...one can move the bishop (either one)
to the f4 square (bishops can change color in this variant). Black then
attacks the bishop with its rook (any one) by placing it on the f6
square. Now White must move the bishop away otherwise the Black rook can
capture the bishop by going Rf4. White can move its attacked bishop to
any vacant square on the board. For instance in my example, the bishop
can move to b3. But this bishop can only capture using its diagonal
power as per its original ability. Understand? Rooks capture by using
its normal power...as any other piece can do the same with the original
power of that piece in question. The king is the weakest piece on the
board as it can only move in one square in any direction at a time. It
cannot jump over any other piece or square except for castling which is
still allowed provided the squares are vacant and not attacked by
opposing pieces.

The only caveat to this variant is that the pawns can't move to the last
rank of the opponsing camp to queen right away. Pawns can be dropped
anywhere up to the 7th rank as long as the square in question is vacant.
But to promote, the pawns must promote normally. En passant capture by
the pawn is still allowed provided the same rule applies to en passant
in original version of chess.

Believe me, chess computer software will NEVER be able to master this
kind of chess because you have to use strict intuition. And memorizing
theory in this variant of chess is absolutely impossible. The number of
combinations right from this variant is almost impossible to calculate.
But watching Kramnik play Kasparov in this chess variant would be lots
of fun to see!

two point:

first: believe me chess computer can master this kind of chess. Not
now, not in 5 years, maybe in 10 maybe in 100 or in 1000 but IMO it
could.

seconde: Why would you like to see Kasparov and Kramnik play that game
? Because they are the bests players of chess ? This is not chess. you
cannot compare this game to chess, the difference are way too large.

Mathieu

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Alberich wrote in message ...
I'd be interested to see how Kramnik vs Kasparov would go if they played
the chess variant Anywhere. In this version, on one board with same
setup, each side can move or drop any piece except the king onto any
vacant square. The rule is this: to capture the enemy piece the player
must utilize the pieces normal power.

For example, in the initial setup...one can move the bishop (either one)
to the f4 square (bishops can change color in this variant). Black then
attacks the bishop with its rook (any one) by placing it on the f6
square. Now White must move the bishop away otherwise the Black rook can
capture the bishop by going Rf4. White can move its attacked bishop to
any vacant square on the board. For instance in my example, the bishop
can move to b3. But this bishop can only capture using its diagonal
power as per its original ability. Understand? Rooks capture by using
its normal power...as any other piece can do the same with the original
power of that piece in question. The king is the weakest piece on the
board as it can only move in one square in any direction at a time. It
cannot jump over any other piece or square except for castling which is
still allowed provided the squares are vacant and not attacked by
opposing pieces.

The only caveat to this variant is that the pawns can't move to the last
rank of the opponsing camp to queen right away. Pawns can be dropped
anywhere up to the 7th rank as long as the square in question is vacant.
But to promote, the pawns must promote normally. En passant capture by
the pawn is still allowed provided the same rule applies to en passant
in original version of chess.

Believe me, chess computer software will NEVER be able to master this
kind of chess because you have to use strict intuition. And memorizing
theory in this variant of chess is absolutely impossible. The number of
combinations right from this variant is almost impossible to calculate.
But watching Kramnik play Kasparov in this chess variant would be lots
of fun to see!

two point:

first: believe me chess computer can master this kind of chess. Not
now, not in 5 years, maybe in 10 maybe in 100 or in 1000 but IMO it
could.

seconde: Why would you like to see Kasparov and Kramnik play that game
? Because they are the bests players of chess ? This is not chess. you
cannot compare this game to chess, the difference are way too large.

Mathieu

It's a chess variant that throws theory out the window and forces
creativity on the first move from the get go. Now, computer software in
chess CAN play Fischer Random and more generally, they can play Shuffle
Chess. Which I think would be a better measure of either Kasparov or
Kramnik than them playing in classical chess. The reason is because both
Kramnik and Kasparov are so well tuned to the various openings that they
employ that it's virtually impossible for either of them to go down in
flaming defeat. Wheareas playing Fischer Random, where the Kings are
always between rooks and the bishops are always on opposite colors but
the opening setup is otherwise scrambled, forces both of them to think
very carefully on the first move. Theory is thrown to the wind and this
makes Kasparov and Kramnik use their intuition and creative thinking to
playing chess. Below is an example of a Fischer Random chess game I
played last night. I lost...of course, but this is how it went:

[Event "?"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2003.11.19"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Chess Tiger 15.0"]
[Black "Alberich"]
[Result "1-0"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "nbqnbrkr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/NBQNBRKR w - - 0 1"]
[PlyCount "73"]

1. d4 c6 2. c4 Nb6 3. Ne3 e6 4. Bb4 d6 5. c5 Nd5 6. Nxd5 exd5 7. Nb3 Qd7
8. Bd3 f5 9. e3 Rf6 10. cxd6 Bxd6 11. Qc3 Qc7 12. Bxd6 Qxd6 13. Qa5 a6
14. Nc5 h5 15.Qb6 Rf7 16. Qb4 Qc7 17. Qe1 h4 18. f3 Rf6 19. e4 fxe4 20.
fxe4 Rxf1+ 21. Qxf1 Bf7 22. e5 Ne6 23. Nxe6 Bxe6 24. h3 Qb6 25. Qf2 Qc7
26. Kh2 Qe7 27. Rf1 Rh6 28.Qe2 a5 29. Qd2 b6 30. Kg1 g5 31. Bb1 Kg7 32.
b3 Kh8 33. Kh1 Rh5 34. Rf6 c5 35.Bg6 cxd4 36. Bxh5 Qa3 37. Rh6+ 1-0