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Old December 12th 06, 07:57 PM posted to rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.computer
Mark Houlsby
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Rob wrote:

Mark Houlsby wrote:


Newsflash: The reason that Mr. Macon started this thread, is that he
has noticed this tendency. More and more people are noticing that you
are a jerk with no redeeming qualities.


He used a posting from five years agoto begin a thread? It is obviously
nothing more than an attempt to begin a flame war with Mr. Innes. It
also seems to me that this behaivor by Mr. Macon, who I know nothing
about, or you Mr. Houlsby is not unlike that of the character Joe in
the children's movie"How to Eat Fried Worms"

Talk to Zed instead:

http://tinyurl.com/s8ws3




Hello Rob,

My guess is that you're pretty new here, so I shall give you
the benefit of the doubt, and bring you up-to-speed.

I trust that you have already read all of the posts in this
thread, relating how reality and Innes are total strangers.

If you haven't you should do that now.

Concerning Mr. Macon's having started what is, strictly speaking,
a troll thread (as you accurately described it) well... Innes
kinda has that effect on people, I guess.

You appear to have read the messages in the Turing Machine thread.

If that has not given you a sense of how frustratingly immature our
Phil is, then I suggest that lecturing people (as you appear to be
doing to me) may not be your strong suit.

The small number of your posts which I have been able to find have
conveyed the impression of your being winningly intelligent.

I suggest that there is no need to spoil this impression by your
conveying the appearance of taking the side of an illiterate, immature
troll like Phil Innes.

Glad to meet you, I feel sure that we shall exchange a number of
interesting posts in the future.

Mark

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Old December 12th 06, 08:01 PM posted to rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.computer
Kenneth Sloan
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Mark Houlsby wrote:


You appear to have read the messages in the Turing Machine thread.


I thought that thread was about Turing Engines.

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  #13  
Old December 12th 06, 08:05 PM posted to rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.computer
Mark Houlsby
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Kenneth Sloan wrote:

Mark Houlsby wrote:


You appear to have read the messages in the Turing Machine thread.


I thought that thread was about Turing Engines.


LOL! Indeed Kenneth, I was merely conveying to Rob the wording in the
subject heading.

You're in sparkling form today, if I may say so, sir.

More than usual, even.

Mark Houlsby

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Old December 12th 06, 09:19 PM posted to rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.computer
Rob
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Mark Houlsby wrote:
Rob wrote:

Mark Houlsby wrote:


Newsflash: The reason that Mr. Macon started this thread, is that he
has noticed this tendency. More and more people are noticing that you
are a jerk with no redeeming qualities.


He used a posting from five years agoto begin a thread? It is obviously
nothing more than an attempt to begin a flame war with Mr. Innes. It
also seems to me that this behaivor by Mr. Macon, who I know nothing
about, or you Mr. Houlsby is not unlike that of the character Joe in
the children's movie"How to Eat Fried Worms"

Talk to Zed instead:

http://tinyurl.com/s8ws3




Hello Rob,

My guess is that you're pretty new here, so I shall give you
the benefit of the doubt, and bring you up-to-speed.

I trust that you have already read all of the posts in this
thread, relating how reality and Innes are total strangers.

If you haven't you should do that now.

Concerning Mr. Macon's having started what is, strictly speaking,
a troll thread (as you accurately described it) well... Innes
kinda has that effect on people, I guess.

You appear to have read the messages in the Turing Machine thread.

If that has not given you a sense of how frustratingly immature our
Phil is, then I suggest that lecturing people (as you appear to be
doing to me) may not be your strong suit.

The small number of your posts which I have been able to find have
conveyed the impression of your being winningly intelligent.

I suggest that there is no need to spoil this impression by your
conveying the appearance of taking the side of an illiterate, immature
troll like Phil Innes.

Glad to meet you, I feel sure that we shall exchange a number of
interesting posts in the future.

Mark


Mark,
I fooled you. I am dumb as a stump. Even so, I find that even a stump
can be useful.(See "The Giving Tree" by Silverstein)
I don't post much in rgcc, I don't really have that type of skill. I
have been in rgcm for awhile.
I don't think alot of the anger directed at Mr. Innes is waranted.
There are bound to be disagreements between people and the best way to
settle those I feel is privatly. Unfortunatly online you have several
people piling onto another person and it tends to esclate things.( I
have been sucked into more than a few of these but thankfully things
have been peaceful for me lately.) I am posting this message to the
group but know that my email address is a real one and feel free to
write directly.
Happy Holidays!
Rob

  #15  
Old December 13th 06, 12:39 AM posted to rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.computer
Mark Houlsby
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Rob wrote:
snip

Mark,
I fooled you. I am dumb as a stump.


I don't believe it. A fencepost maybe (kidding: hear "The Piano Has
Been Drinking" by Tom Waits [on the LP "Small Change"]).

snip

Happy Holidays!
Rob


Right back atcha!
Mark

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Old December 13th 06, 04:27 AM posted to rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.computer
The Historian
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Mark Houlsby wrote:
Rob wrote:
snip

Mark,
I fooled you. I am dumb as a stump.


I don't believe it.


It's true. And he's hardly a newbie. Robtroll comes out whenever Innes,
a business associate, runs into problems online.

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Old December 13th 06, 12:35 PM posted to rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.computer
Guy Macon
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Rob wrote:

Mark Houlsby wrote:

Newsflash: The reason that Mr. Macon started this thread, is that he
has noticed this tendency. More and more people are noticing that you
are a jerk with no redeeming qualities.


He used a posting from five years agoto begin a thread? It is obviously
nothing more than an attempt to begin a flame war with Mr. Innes.


Not true. The reason I started this thread was that in researching
Philip Innes' claims about universal turing machines, I saw him
make some claims about certain computers at NASA that, if true,
would be important for the engineering community to know about.
I was not aware at the time of Innes various other unbelievable
claims.

Guy Macon
http://www.guymacon.com/

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Old December 13th 06, 12:39 PM posted to rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.computer
Guy Macon
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Kenneth Sloan wrote:

Mark Houlsby wrote:

You appear to have read the messages in the Turing Machine thread.


I thought that thread was about Turing Engines.


Now I hve to wipe the coffee of my screen and keyboard...


  #19  
Old December 13th 06, 01:27 PM posted to rec.games.chess.misc,rec.games.chess.computer
Guy Macon
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Chess One wrote:

a complete invention of something purportedly I wrote


Something you *DID* write.

You posted it on 16 Aug 1998 at 02:16:35 GMT.

In the rec.games.chess.computer newsgroup.

Under the Message-ID .

From IP address [ 209.198.90.217 ].

With the subject line " Bob, can we have a substantive
answer please ... ?"

In reply to a post by Bob Hyatt.

You can look it up on Google he
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.g...6?dmode=source

Here is what you wrote:

"I don't believe we will see this doubling every two years
much longer, because the gigahertz barrier is a tough one,
when electrical properties change quite drastically as
suddenly everything on the chip is an antenna for microwave
frequencies..." -- Phil Innes, 1998



  #20  
Old December 13th 06, 02:00 PM posted to rec.games.chess.computer
The Historian
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Guy Macon wrote:
Rob wrote:

Mark Houlsby wrote:

Newsflash: The reason that Mr. Macon started this thread, is that he
has noticed this tendency. More and more people are noticing that you
are a jerk with no redeeming qualities.


He used a posting from five years agoto begin a thread? It is obviously
nothing more than an attempt to begin a flame war with Mr. Innes.


Not true. The reason I started this thread was that in researching
Philip Innes' claims about universal turing machines, I saw him
make some claims about certain computers at NASA that, if true,
would be important for the engineering community to know about.
I was not aware at the time of Innes various other unbelievable
claims.


Guy, Rob Mitchell, the poster you are responding to, has worked with
Innes. It's best to consider him an Innes meat puppet.

Meanwhile, a search of the Internet turns up another bit of Innes
puffery:

"Phil Innes created program for qualitative assessment of on-line arts
education, which appeared before Senate Technology Committee,
Washington D.C. Synchronously with business activities, worked with the
inventor of chess broadcasting technologies in St. Petersburg, Russia,
since 1996, to promote greater world-wide interactions and audiences
for chess."

This is taken from a 2005 press release, distributed by Rob Mitchell.
The "program for qualitative assessment of on-line arts education" has
never been identified. His connection to Shahcom, the Russian company
mentioned in the press release, is well-known; the nature of that
connection is something Mr. Innes refuses to disclose. But it's hard to
imagine someone would campaign for a product so agressively without
money changing hands.

 




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